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03-16-2024 , 03:15 PM
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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
HERO (100BBs)
CO (185.2BBs) [VPIP: 13.3% | PFR: 13.3% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 30]
BTN (99.4BBs) [VPIP: 19.6% | PFR: 13% | AGG: 20% | Hands: 47]
SB (75BBs) [VPIP: 31.6% | PFR: 31.6% | AGG: 30% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 50% | River Agg: 50% | 3Bet: 20% | Fold to 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 19]
BB (100.4BBs) [VPIP: 45.7% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 12% | Hands: 35]

Dealt to Hero: 3 A

HERO Raises To 2.6BBs, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Raises To 7BBs, BB Folds, HERO Calls 4.4BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.53 effective]
Flop (15BBs): 3 T J
SB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn (15BBs): 3 T J 9
SB Bets 3BBs (Rem. Stack: 65BBs), HERO Raises To 10BBs (Rem. Stack: 83BBs), SB Calls 7BBs (Rem. Stack: 58BBs)

River (35BBs): 3 T J 9 7
SB Bets 4BBs (Rem. Stack: 54BBs), HERO Calls 4BBs (Rem. Stack: 79BBs)



Preflop I think this is a call given sizing and they had raised a few hands already? I think folding is also fine. from an average passive player its a fold, they had 30/30/20 stats so even with tiny sample theyre not that. Could be a fold anyways, lmk this is spot I am least sure on.

Flop I think you check range? I have more 1 pair but they have nuts advantage, this is a hand that checks always anyways. can have polarized x/r range with 2pair+.

Turn brings in almost all the draws but doesn't improve random overcards. Not sure whether this is a check range again spot or not. Definitely check this hand. When facing a 20% pot bet I think you need to defend with a ton, and I think this is a good hand to defend with over a diamond b/c they can have a lot of 1 diamond hands which are happy to fold out trash w/ some equity, but don't want to blow up the pot. I decide to x/r targeting 1 diamond hands specifically, want to put those hands in a tough spot, planning to call most non diamond rivers depending on sizing but hoping for a check. No idea if this sizing is correct.

River bet w/ 1/10 pot I think you def call with this hand. maybe the very worst and very best hands you raise, but this is clearly neither. not sure theres much you fold here.

Last edited by mycorrhizae; 03-16-2024 at 03:45 PM.
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03-16-2024 , 03:53 PM
Wouldn't fold pre to this small sizing even vs a fairly tight 3-bet. Being 75bb eff they're supposed to size down just not this much.

You're never supposed to range check IP (in theory)

Flop 3bp stabbing (bet IP as PFC) ranges tend to go 20% or 33%. Not a good board for you really.

Would fold turn, raise seems better than call though. He's never folding a diamond to a raise since they're all nut flush draws or combo draws.

Calling river, don't like jam vs fish here enough to jam with bad blockers.
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03-16-2024 , 03:58 PM
well you most likely wouldn't check back on the flop a hand that wants to raise often so the turn line makes little sense. The best value hands that do check back are gonna be sets, and they rarely raise this turn. So in theory you should have almost no raises on this turn to make things simple unless you have diamonds in your hand that decided to check flop.

If you did raise turn you want to have a diamond.

As played on the river it just looks like he's block betting? I'm impartial, I mean you are rarely ever good here, but maybe sometimes you win?
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03-16-2024 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam
Wouldn't fold pre to this small sizing even vs a fairly tight 3-bet. Being 75bb eff they're supposed to size down just not this much.

You're never supposed to range check IP (in theory)

Flop 3bp stabbing (bet IP as PFC) ranges tend to go 20% or 33%. Not a good board for you really.

Would fold turn, raise seems better than call though. He's never folding a diamond to a raise since they're all nut flush draws or combo draws.

Calling river, don't like jam vs fish here enough to jam with bad blockers.
Oh God yea I can't read my own HH embarrassing, idk why I thought I was OOP

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03-16-2024 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
well you most likely wouldn't check back on the flop a hand that wants to raise often so the turn line makes little sense. The best value hands that do check back are gonna be sets, and they rarely raise this turn. So in theory you should have almost no raises on this turn to make things simple unless you have diamonds in your hand that decided to check flop.

If you did raise turn you want to have a diamond.

As played on the river it just looks like he's block betting? I'm impartial, I mean you are rarely ever good here, but maybe sometimes you win?
This makes sense to me now that you say it. In the moment I didn't spend enough time to think through combos I would have checked flop here w/.


My gut was like "calling this sucks, folding to this small a bet also sucks", then talked myself into a raise by saying maybe I can push out some low 1 diamond hands or no diamond 1 pair hands, get them to check river with missed gutshots and win this sometimes. But that is bad, prob supposed to fold turn here.



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03-17-2024 , 09:04 AM
i would seriously consider fold to the 3b pre.

Yes odds, yes fish.. but fish also have ridiculously tight 3b ranges, never balance bluffs enough postflop and we're effectively going to have to call, call, fold far too many Axx boards imo. The lower SPR makes this worse
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