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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
Adding hands post flop that you didn't give him pre just means you didn't evaluate pf range correctly.
If you want to be super pedantic you start with pf range that (for example) 3bets 99 100% and 3bets 33 5% A3o 2% or whatever frequency you think are best approximation of range pool will show up. All those hands are in range with negligible frequency and will have almost no effect on your strategy.
Now you have more precise range that are very hard/impossible for human to comprehend and very easy to overestimate how often he has those super infrequent hands. Complexity goes through the roof and gained ev is minimal maybe even negative if you blunder for time to time.
You have several logical fallacies going on here, so let me try and break it down better.
You'd need to know your opponent's PF range w/ 100% accuracy, in order to arrive at accurate conclusions, the deeper you go down the decision tree, each decision multiples the possibility of error if you're incorrect about your opponent's PF range.
This is what I'm saying you should do instead:
1) Start with an accepted pre-flop range (GTO or stake adjusted accepted PF range).
2) As you get further down the decision tree, remove or add ranges, based on opponents actions.
3) Any hands that don't fit in step 1, but do make sense based on your opponents actions, heavily discount or completely remove.
You're taking ALL of the information you have, and use deductive reasoning to arrive at the most logical range. You don't limit your reasoning to one staring point only, but look at the hand wholistically. Your approach is way too linear imho.
I don't think it's horrible to try and make beginning pool estimations. The pool will only 3-bet X hand 10% of the time or whatever. If we had perfect information here, then yes, maybe taking a very linear mode to hand range construction could work. But that's why GTO play doesn't work exactly when playing and assigning EV to hand ranges... human players don't work like that.
Last edited by FreakDaddy; 03-27-2024 at 04:53 PM.