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03-17-2010 , 11:10 PM

Headie1

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 494

This happens to me all the time in HUSNG's and frankly I just dont get it. Am I missing something? Should I ck behind on river. Keep in mind this guy was insta-calling all of my bets. I have never played anyone who called so quickly and i thought I was owning him here. Thoughts?

Absolute, NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): 1,455
BB: 1,545

Pre-Flop: (30) K

dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to 60, BB calls 40

Flop: (120) 4

(2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 120, BB calls 120

Turn: (360) 8

(2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 360, BB calls 360

River: (1,080) 6

(2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets 915 and is All-In, BB calls 915

Results: 2,910 Pot
Hero showed K K and LOST (-1,445 NET)
BB showed Q 9 and WON 2,910 (+1,475 NET)

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03-17-2010 , 11:12 PM

r1tony

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,061

Standard. Donkeys sometime can't fold a hand no matter what the price.
They tell me its suppose to even out in your favor in time, but I still am waiting myself.

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03-18-2010 , 02:49 AM

palinca

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What are you expecting a call from on the river that you beat?

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03-18-2010 , 04:30 AM

theseus51

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Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 464

Yeah that's a way easy check down on the river.

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03-18-2010 , 04:32 AM

Pegorino

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 70

Seriously wtf on the river?

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03-18-2010 , 04:47 AM

taikogod

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if you really want value bet smaller

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03-18-2010 , 04:50 AM

React1oN

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Originally Posted by Headie1

Should I ck behind on river.

YES

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03-18-2010 , 05:11 AM

tcassel

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 145

I would be betting smaller on flop turn and river to get value out of a 10 or 7 or draw.
On a side note how is the traffic and player quality on Absoute poker? I was considering a change

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03-18-2010 , 05:21 AM

miniwiz

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,971

Any 5 and any 9 make straights,the only reason i would ever shove here is against opponents i think will fold 2 pair here almost all the time.

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03-18-2010 , 05:47 AM

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JSpazz

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6,694

check back river

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03-18-2010 , 08:39 AM

#11

plowking2010

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,444

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Originally Posted by JSpazz

check back river

+100000000000000000000

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03-18-2010 , 09:02 AM

#12

DocDevil

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,739

ez cbh river, the board is soo F*ckng ugly.

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03-18-2010 , 10:59 AM

#13

alexdered

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 290

River all-in was your biggest mistake, otherwise looks ok to me. I don't know what level your playing but if your playing terrible players and have an aggressive image as your bets are pots sized (I guess you keep them consistent) then you could move in on the turn and get a call from something like AT, KT, a combo draw that a fish just cannot fold. This is surely a bad play for the higher limits, but if you play small or micro stakes you gotta punish the donks for their loose tendencies.

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03-18-2010 , 12:40 PM

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TNixon

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Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,720

There are 2 separate 4-card straights on the board, and lots of villain's one-pair hands turned into two pair.

Are you bluffing with KK here? Cause that seems really bad to me.

Oh yeah, and villain's flop call is kinda meh, but probably not horrible, but great job giving villain the implied odds he needed to make the turn call with his open-ender.

Last edited by TNixon; 03-18-2010 at 12:55 PM. Reason: er yeah, I'm good at reading hands. 789T != double-gut. :)

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03-18-2010 , 12:53 PM

#15

naymlis

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,362

doesn't matter how bad the fish are.. THEY STILL KNOW HOW TO COUNT. they can see a 4 straight just as easily as you and even tho most never fold two pairs and sets on the boards (which beat your one pair obviously).. you're NEVER getting worse hands to call here.

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03-18-2010 , 01:03 PM

#16

fafri

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 663

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Originally Posted by r1tony

Standard. Donkeys sometime can't fold a hand no matter what the price.
They tell me its suppose to even out in your favor in time, but I still am waiting myself.

Never even out in your favor as you're a solid player and will never get involved in those types of spots and never be able to make these suckouts, as sad as it could be.

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