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08-17-2009 , 05:21 AM
Raise, an aggro monkey is never checking back a NFD on the turn and will fold a good amount here.
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08-17-2009 , 06:54 AM
people don't fold flushes lol
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08-17-2009 , 09:56 AM
ignore this
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08-17-2009 , 10:11 AM
i call. that's a pretty standard bluff by an aggro player.
and you only need to win 25%+
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08-17-2009 , 01:29 PM
Villain is OK. Not crazy aggro, thinking player. Was trying to c/r flop.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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Hero (BB): $209.50
SB: $203.50

Pre-Flop: Q J dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 4 J Q (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: ($12) K (2 Players)
Hero bets $11, SB raises to $33, Hero calls $22

River: ($78) 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets $58, Hero folds

Results: $78 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
SB mucked and WON $77.50 (+$38.50 NET)
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08-17-2009 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by salsathekid
Villain is OK. Not crazy aggro, thinking player. Was trying to c/r flop.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $209.50
SB: $203.50

Pre-Flop: Q J dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 4 J Q (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: ($12) K (2 Players)
Hero bets $11, SB raises to $33, Hero calls $22

River: ($78) 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets $58, Hero folds

Results: $78 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
SB mucked and WON $77.50 (+$38.50 NET)
gd fold imo
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08-17-2009 , 05:02 PM
Ugh I feel like so many trickier spots like this come up in cash... Good practice though. In SNG I wouldn't worry at all about getting it in here, but against relatively nitty 50NL player am I still right? We had played for a little while and I was c/ring fairly often, and I felt like he was a bit spewy as he started coming over the top the last couple times, although I folded both times so he may have had it all three. Figured his range could be anywhere form tptk to worse 2-pair to straight or flush draws... But i need a checkup lol
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($61.60)
SB ($64.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, K
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) 9, K, J (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $2, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $19, Hero raises to $60.10 (All-In), SB calls $41.10

Turn: ($123.20) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($123.20) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $123.20 | Rake: $0.50
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08-17-2009 , 07:00 PM
it looks standard to me. + he's only relatively nitty, and there's an aggro dynamic going on.
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08-17-2009 , 11:08 PM
Villain is typical bad call station.

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Hero (BTN/SB): t1770 M = 39.33
BB: t1230 M = 27.33

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with A A
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) 8 5 A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t90, BB calls t90

Turn: (t300) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t210, BB calls t210

River: (t720) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t360, BB raises to t720, Hero calls t360

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t2160
Hero mucks Ad As
BB shows 5c Qc (a flush, Ace high)
BB wins t2160


Standard suckout?
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08-17-2009 , 11:13 PM
standard yeah, puke river though, still a call in my book
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08-17-2009 , 11:16 PM
ty. Ugh hating my current ice cold streak
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08-18-2009 , 05:16 AM
Lamdun, I don't like your turn bet-sizing given your river action.

If villain is reliably aggro I'd tend to bet weak - around half pot - , hoping to bet/3-bet all-in. If he flat calls I'm betting huge on any non- river, and, depending on reads, bet-folding a low and bet-calling a K/Q/J .

Against a passive villain, bet pot on the turn planning to shove any river.
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08-19-2009 , 01:47 AM
He calls 3bets pretty wide. Was gonna C/J turn. River is like worst card in the deck but obv im not folding.

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SB: $203
Hero (BB): $200

Pre-Flop: A Q dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, SB calls $14

Flop: ($40) A 5 A (2 Players)
Hero bets $26, SB raises to $65, Hero calls $39

Turn: ($170) 7 (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($170) J (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets $118 and is All-In, Hero calls $115 and is All-In

Last edited by salsathekid; 08-19-2009 at 01:58 AM.
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08-19-2009 , 05:14 AM
what are you putting him on when he checks turn and shoves river? surely a high percentage of the time he's got a flush rather then an ace. Do you think it is plausable to get it in on flop? He might stack off with a middle pair like 9s or with flush draw.
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08-19-2009 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by salsathekid
He calls 3bets pretty wide. Was gonna C/J turn. River is like worst card in the deck but obv im not folding.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
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SB: $203
Hero (BB): $200

Pre-Flop: A Q dealt to Hero (BB)
SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, SB calls $14

Flop: ($40) A 5 A (2 Players)
Hero bets $26, SB raises to $65, Hero calls $39

Turn: ($170) 7 (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($170) J (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets $118 and is All-In, Hero calls $115 and is All-In
Lead turn.
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08-19-2009 , 09:40 AM
Standard?? bad play by villain?? bad play by me?? play it differently???

losing confidence over the past few days.....

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BTN/SB: t2060 M = 68.67
Hero (BB): t940 M = 31.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K 9
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40


Flop: (t120) K 2 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t20, Hero raises to t120, BTN/SB calls t100

Turn: (t360) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t200, BTN/SB calls t200

River: (t760) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t560 all in, BTN/SB calls t560

Final Pot: t1880
BTN/SB shows 3 4 (three of a kind, Threes)
Hero shows K 9 (two pair, Kings and Threes)
BTN/SB wins t1880

Last edited by Mooseknuckle; 08-19-2009 at 09:49 AM.
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08-19-2009 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by glpmurray
what are you putting him on when he checks turn and shoves river? surely a high percentage of the time he's got a flush rather then an ace. Do you think it is plausable to get it in on flop? He might stack off with a middle pair like 9s or with flush draw.

I think he has some flushes, some Ax and some random air that he's spazzing with. thought about jamming on the flop but wanted to get more value out of his random air and think he can maybe fold a FD. River is a very bad card but I think C/F is pretty bad here.
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08-19-2009 , 05:00 PM
This thread should be getting more love imo.
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08-19-2009 , 05:33 PM
Third hand, easy fold without reads?

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BTN/SB: t1530 M = 51
Hero (BB): t1470 M = 49

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 2 A
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) Q 5 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t280) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t180, Hero calls t180

River: (t640) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t300, Hero calls t300
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08-19-2009 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mooseknuckle
Standard?? bad play by villain?? bad play by me?? play it differently???

losing confidence over the past few days.....

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The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: t2060 M = 68.67
Hero (BB): t940 M = 31.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K 9
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40


Flop: (t120) K 2 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t20, Hero raises to t120, BTN/SB calls t100

Turn: (t360) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t200, BTN/SB calls t200

River: (t760) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t560 all in, BTN/SB calls t560

Final Pot: t1880
BTN/SB shows 3 4 (three of a kind, Threes)
Hero shows K 9 (two pair, Kings and Threes)
BTN/SB wins t1880
I would make my turn bet closer towards pot. 280?
and I would probably check the river to induce a bluff shove from him for a missed FD..
Turn and river are pretty scary low cards given that he min flop bet. Those usually indicate a donk who wants to take down a 200 pot w/ his absolute garbage w/ a minbet.
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08-19-2009 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NUXX
Third hand, easy fold without reads?

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BTN/SB: t1530 M = 51
Hero (BB): t1470 M = 49

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 2 A
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) Q 5 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t280) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t180, Hero calls t180

River: (t640) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t300, Hero calls t300
yes
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08-19-2009 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NUXX
Third hand, easy fold without reads?

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BTN/SB: t1530 M = 51
Hero (BB): t1470 M = 49

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 2 A
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) Q 5 A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t280) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t180, Hero calls t180

River: (t640) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t300, Hero calls t300
I would fold on the river bc it just seems too obvious he has you beat.

From his bet sizing it doesn't really look like he is a donk, but even in case he is you can fold on river without losing really too much and shake it off
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08-19-2009 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mooseknuckle
Standard?? bad play by villain?? bad play by me?? play it differently???

losing confidence over the past few days.....

Poker Stars $50.00+$2.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: t2060 M = 68.67
Hero (BB): t940 M = 31.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K 9
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40


Flop: (t120) K 2 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t20, Hero raises to t120, BTN/SB calls t100

Turn: (t360) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t200, BTN/SB calls t200

River: (t760) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t560 all in, BTN/SB calls t560

Final Pot: t1880
BTN/SB shows 3 4 (three of a kind, Threes)
Hero shows K 9 (two pair, Kings and Threes)
BTN/SB wins t1880
fire turn bigger (280/300) to protect/get value.
and i prefer c/c river. but it may be villain dependent.
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08-19-2009 , 07:56 PM
Is this always a bet/fold? Do we bet the river if he checks?
Does betting the turn change if there is no FD? Do we generally call a river bet if we check behind turn?



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Hero (BTN/SB): $100.50
BB: $120.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with T A
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) A J 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.00, BB calls $5

Turn: ($16.00) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12.00
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08-19-2009 , 08:17 PM
Villian is a big donk avg stakes of $9 but that doesn't really mean anything in this instance.
I flop the nuts, well the scary nuts, and need a line check on my bet sizing.

fwiw I think my bet sizing is bad but I'm just too much of a nit to bet smaller on the turn for value and see the river go 4flush.


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Hero (BTN/SB): t1450 M = 48.33
BB: t1550 M = 51.67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 9 7
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 8 T J (2 players)
BB bets t60, Hero raises to t240, BB calls t180

Turn: (t600) A (2 players)
BB bets t100, Hero raises to t800
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