Villian is a pretty straightforward, TAG player. He has not made any odd plays and does not seem to get out of line. As far as his 3-bet calling range, we can put him on basically any pair a-q,a-j, and possibly some more polarized hands such as suited connectors and such but I can not be sure. If villian has been paying attention, he probably views me as LAG but has not seen any hands shown down but sees that I have been opening a fair amount of pots and taking shots.


Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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UTG: $10.00
CO: $27.72
BTN: $5.75
Hero (SB): $12.40
BB: $10.45

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with J K
1 fold, CO raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) K K 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, CO calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.50) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

River: ($7.10) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

CO shows 10-10.

I read his turn bet sizing as weak but I thought he would more often than not bet again on the river. In retrospect, I think that betting the turn and making it look like a 2nd barrel would be good. He may be putting me on JJ-AA/AK of course but as I mentioned previously, I feel as though he may think that I am capable of 2 barreling with nothing here. Also, he has to think that I could be value betting a lot of pairs lower than 10s and even if I did hit an underset, he is now good.

What do you think the best line to extract the most value here is? Did I get too cute here?

bet turn. that's the best card you could have gotten for value.

If hes a TAG he'll have a very strong range pretty often. I can see him having a lot of TT/JJ/QQ here. (range probably looks like TT+ AQ)

You're checking I guess to get value from air that floated the flop? Fist off I don't think theres a TON of that. If there is any of it then it won't go very far with a bluff either on this board wich makes it super obvious you have a boat after you call (though you have quads in this case). He wont bluff the river with air because people don't fold boats so why try to bluff you off one? Which brings me to the main point...

Just bet the turn and river yourself to get stacks in against all his boats. he will never fold a single pocket pair on the turn even if hes afraid of JJ+. He's got a boat, cant fold that :P

Bet the turn and jam the river.

You have the nuts, and he won't fold.

Given the stakes you can prob get three streets from tens, and if you can it's criminal not to go for it. Just 1/2 pot three streets and hope he calls down. Perhaps 2/3 on the flop actually.

When I clicked on the title I thought "99% of the time I will be writing bet 3 streets"

Bet 3 streets.

bet bet shove

max value vs boats

Here's your proper quads line below. No just kidding, I agree with them bet bet shove. There's a theorem on here that says "no one ever folded a fullhouse"



Absolute Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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UTG: $10.40
CO: $9.70
BTN: $16.76
SB: $8.45
Hero (BB): $18.81

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 6 6
2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.25) K 6 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.25) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($0.25) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $16.60, BTN raises to $16.66, Hero calls $0.06

He's happily checking a full house here with any hand that called a 3bet e.g. JJ TT 99 etc. But he will definitely call with those hands too. Checking the turn is bad and checking the river is a huge error. Just bet and keep on betting. There isn't a hand he can have that will bet at you on the river after you check (because you have that hand).

You're obviously not getting to c/r the river. Why would he bet the river when the 3 of a kind on the board is right smack in the middle of your 3bet range and you have no reason to call with air? Bet bet bet.

The best advice I've ever gotten for quads is simple. Just bet them at every oppurtunity. Nobody ever puts you on quads, you'll get max value from boats, yes you will fold out air most of the time but it's not as if they will bluff off a lot of $ anyway.

$3 turn, shove river. simples.

3bet bigger and bet/bet/shove

b/b/b/b/b/b/b/b/b/b/b/b/b

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Bet every street. If he has a pair he'll keep calling. Trickybob says it all when he says villain won't bet behind a river check.

lol so true