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QQ OOP, paired board against 2 players QQ OOP, paired board against 2 players

05-31-2008 , 09:35 AM
MP: $24.55
CO: $31.65
BTN: $10.10
SB: $26.30
Hero (BB): $43.60
UTG: $36.20

Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.75, MP calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.75) 5 5 6 (3 Players)
Hero bets $3, MP folds, CO calls $3

Turn: ($11.75) K (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($11.75) 3 (2 Players)
Hero bets $4, CO raises to $12.50

Results: $19.75 Pot ($0.95 Rake)
CO mucked and WON $18.80 (+$10.05 NET)


I dont bet more on flop becuase I figure that on a paired board, people tend to tighten up a bit, so larger bet not required. Villain is 17/6/2.3. Is the fold at the end right? I just dont think I beat anything that could make this play (except a bluff). But it seems unlikely, given how it was played and villain stats. After only call on flop and check onturn, I put him on a middle pair, 77-JJ maybe, and am betting for value.

Thanks for your comments.
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05-31-2008 , 10:24 AM
I`m raising more preflop, 2,25$ because we are OOP and have 4 limpers. Flop is fine in my opinion - I bet between 1/2 and 2/3 of the pot in those spots also.

On the turn I am betting about 8$ as played - and it`s the last money I put in the pot. It`s very unlikely that he peeled with AKs or smth because he would raise it preflop. Flushdraws are also pretty unlikely, he would fold them preflop most of the time. Its almost allways a middle pair or a FH here.
I think he will call us sometimes with 88-JJ, mostly muck it and raise sometimes with a FH or calls and bets the river with it.
I am mostly betting the turn because I want the pot now and because it is so hard to get value on the river anyway.

take it with a grain of salt though, I suck in 3bet pots
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05-31-2008 , 10:39 AM
Ok, perhaps I should bet pot, it's just i feel uncomfortable building up a pot OOP, without a very strong hand or draw. SO you saying that bet turn, fold to a raise and check/fold river if called on turn?

As played, is the river fold correct?
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05-31-2008 , 10:52 AM
you have QQ against 4 limpers, how the f is that not a very strong hand ? If it went raise, reraise between two nits and you sit there in the BB with QQ - then it get`s a little harder.

I bet a little more on the river, about 7$ and fold to a raise as well - but I am unsure if it is correct to do so. Just can`t think of a hand that you can beat that a 17/6 would raise on the river ...
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05-31-2008 , 11:10 AM
I think so. With a paired multiway flop, with sb that hasnt bet till the river. With that kind of TAGs I really respect a river c/r. You're right folding
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05-31-2008 , 11:28 AM
Sorry, you are right, it is a strong hand PF against limpers, but on turn, with a flush and overpair on it, I feel unesay building a pot big enough that I have to go all the way with it.

Thanks for your replies guys, this is my first post, impressed at how quiclky people are here to help.
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05-31-2008 , 03:28 PM
welcome
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