Hi! Trying to fight against high 4-bet % I observe from some regs.



My assumption is that, IF some player has a high 4-bet frequency (here it was normal, but high against me), it necessarily involves a bunch of offsuit broadways (KTo, QJo...) that will always fold against 5-bet. So I'm thinking turning hands that 'address' those offsuit broadways into bluffs may be a good idea. Those would be 1) A9s-A2s (unblock offsuit broadways / block AA) and 2) 99-22 (unblock offsuit broaways / good equity against AK).

What do you think? Do you prefer calling? Folding? The downside of it is that both those categories of hand have good equity against offsuit broadways, but I'm thinking that equity denial makes up for it since the SPR has already gotten quite low at this point. Also, do you think that players that have high 4B% tend to 4B often with lower pockets? or maybe with A9s-A2s? I don't think that's the case, but I could be wrong.

Im folding vs open.

Are they actually 4-betting too much or just more than most regs?

Fold at every point.

I think more than most regs, although I'm not entirely sure what would be the standard 4B%! I'm assuming 18%-20%? This particular player has 20%, which is higher than most regs. Most regs would be 12%-15%, I'd say. BUT a lot of regs (and this particular one also (1), although I hadn't notice it before now) have a tendency to slowplay most if not all of their premiums when IP, which skews the overall 4B%, so I don't know. Not based on a huge sample (~1.5k hands), but 29% seems high?

1. Opponent 4B by relative position

MP 4bet vs CO 3bet is 20% in GTOw "simple" preflop range, and CO has no 5bet bluff at all. It never chooses A6s as a CO 3bet, sometimes A7s and A5s always. However, 5bet jamming those hands is a -2.78bb and -1.62bb mistake

Yes, I just regurgitate a computer output But I think it's worth something, in my opinion you need to have a much better read before you deviate so much from the standard play. "Normal 4bet frequency but high against me" seems dubious.

Absolute spew

is "fold at every spot" trolling or what? I think you can flat a 2x open in the CO with Axs 200bb deep cmon now.

Is it ever OK to 5-bet bluff microstakes? Serious question, never really played these stakes, my instincts are simply no.

It isn't 200bb deep.