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Playing super tight in a 3way 3bet pot Playing super tight in a 3way 3bet pot

10-19-2021 , 07:27 AM
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Ignition - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 299.22 BB
UTG: 101.5 BB
MP: 97.2 BB
CO: 148.38 BB
Hero (BTN): 102 BB
SB: 97.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 A

UTG raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BB calls 7 BB, UTG calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (24.5 BB, 3 players) 7 2 9
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (24.5 BB, 3 players) A
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (24.5 BB, 3 players) 6
BB checks, UTG bets 17.46 BB, Hero folds

On the flop, I felt like trying to saw through a rec in the BB and a tight UTG range was a bad idea. On the turn, I felt like my hand was definitely not worth a value bet. On the river, I felt like I needed a kicker to call since players who open for 2.5x with full stacks are usually on the weak-tight side and I had the rec player in the BB helping to stop bluffs.

I try to play pretty tight in multiway pots, but did I go off the deep end this time?

Thanks for any help!
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10-19-2021 , 09:27 AM
I would cbet thia. Hand has decent BD equity and it's their ranges don't connect very well on this texture so fold equity should be ok.
Turn chek is ok.
Riv- I would call UTG could see this as good opportunity to bluff after so many checks, but you do have pure bluff catcher so folding can't be that bad. What is your range otr?
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10-19-2021 , 10:40 AM
It's close. UTG may feel emboldened to bluff since you checked back the turned A that supposedly hits you. BB should be a non-factor at this point other than having a mid-pair heavy range that can potentially bluff catch. Fold is probably fine as UTG has plenty of aces in his range and most of his other hands shouldn't be incentivized to bet. It's probably not JTs enough to make it a good call.

Betting flop is an interesting line. You can rep AA on this board, so with an A blocker and a couple backdoors maybe you could triple barrel here if you pick up turn equity.
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10-19-2021 , 02:44 PM
OP, I am curious why you think a 300bb stacked BB is a rec in Anon Zone?

With BB overcall pre, I think UTG is going to call wider potentially due to the odds.

I think there will be some hearts, Kx/Qx that can bluff here. Need him to be bluffing 3 out of 10 times here. Probably making the call here. I think I would overbluff this spot as UTG since you will want to be betting your better Ax IP on the turn with the board being two tone.
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10-19-2021 , 02:46 PM
How often do your 3-bets get through as BTN vs. UTG, assuming no weirdness from the blinds?
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10-19-2021 , 03:05 PM
i m a bit afraid of fish in god mode sitting on 300bb, he seems to make good hands from random 2cards so far
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10-19-2021 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramius
i m a bit afraid of fish in god mode sitting on 300bb, he seems to make good hands from random 2cards so far
0 logic
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10-20-2021 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
I would cbet thia. Hand has decent BD equity and it's their ranges don't connect very well on this texture so fold equity should be ok.
Turn chek is ok.
Riv- I would call UTG could see this as good opportunity to bluff after so many checks, but you do have pure bluff catcher so folding can't be that bad. What is your range otr?
I would still have some AK and AQ I think as well as AJs, ATs. So I wouldn't be range folding the river.

I really dislike trying to bluff these players who cold-call 3bets pre. They are so sticky and bluff-happy. I would have started bluffing heads up.

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Originally Posted by Koss
It's close. UTG may feel emboldened to bluff since you checked back the turned A that supposedly hits you. BB should be a non-factor at this point other than having a mid-pair heavy range that can potentially bluff catch. Fold is probably fine as UTG has plenty of aces in his range and most of his other hands shouldn't be incentivized to bet. It's probably not JTs enough to make it a good call.

Betting flop is an interesting line. You can rep AA on this board, so with an A blocker and a couple backdoors maybe you could triple barrel here if you pick up turn equity.
Bluffing is probably a reasonable idea. I just hate trying to saw through a BB who took 3 to the face pre and an UTG who likely has a tight range. I could easily be overestimating how difficult a bluff would be though.

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Originally Posted by ChiTownBubba
OP, I am curious why you think a 300bb stacked BB is a rec in Anon Zone?

With BB overcall pre, I think UTG is going to call wider potentially due to the odds.

I think there will be some hearts, Kx/Qx that can bluff here. Need him to be bluffing 3 out of 10 times here. Probably making the call here. I think I would overbluff this spot as UTG since you will want to be betting your better Ax IP on the turn with the board being two tone.
I thought BB was a rec because he cold-called a 3bet in the BB. Players who do this in the pool usually play horribly post-flop. They can't let go of any piece and often make wild bluffs to try and justify their pre-flop play. A lot of recs in the pool seem to think it is fun to play deep. And a lot of regs like to reset their stacks to 100 BB if they get deep.

I am glad you guys at least think it is close.

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Originally Posted by JohnRusty
How often do your 3-bets get through as BTN vs. UTG, assuming no weirdness from the blinds?
Against a player who opens for a reg sizing, I would expect it to get through 40ish % of the time. I don't really like 3-betting A5s against UTGs because people underfold to 3bets so much in the pool. But it's something I want to get comfortable with for higher stakes when I get there.
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