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Old 12-02-2011, 10:29 AM   #651
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Re: Perky Debt

Viffer's posts suggests he knows for a fact that Alec was well aware he was being dumped staked money, and Alec knew the backer was unaware his stake was being dumped.

Does Alec admit to that and if so, what's his response to being a known conspirator?

What would this Poll say -

If he knew it's the only way he was getting his money, was it okay for him to play a role at the backer's expense?

Because if Alec was unaware of an unknowing backer in the dump, Viffer's way off base. Why doesn't Alec just say what he knew and when he knew it?
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:50 PM   #652
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How much was the chip dump for? Less than, equal to or greater than $150k? I've yet to read anything regarding this.
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Old 12-02-2011, 04:51 PM   #653
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Despite knowing Alec and having no negative experiences with him, my gut feeling is that he is very likely at fault based on the way he has handled this thread, however, I can't for the life of me understand why Viffer is seemingly withholding important information he has that would prove Alec understood the source of the money.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:28 PM   #654
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Viffer is seemingly withholding important information he has that would prove Alec understood the source of the money.
my guess is viffer doesnt consider himself the kind of guy to go out of his way to rat people out and by raising questions itt hes done his part make the community aware of what the accused may be capable of

if they had a bet then viffer would be required to share what he knows (divulge sources ect) in order to collect imo
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:00 AM   #655
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i did offer to put money up and got no one to do the same.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:19 AM   #656
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i did offer to put money up and got no one to do the same.
I'll bet you five dollars Alec didn't know he was robbing Perky's backer.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:04 AM   #657
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I'll bet you five dollars Alec didn't know he was robbing Perky's backer.
Ooooooh snap! Five dolla dolla bills ya'll!

****s goin' down! I repeat, **** IS GOIN' DOWN!
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:56 PM   #658
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my guess is viffer doesnt consider himself the kind of guy to go out of his way to rat people out and by raising questions itt hes done his part make the community aware of what the accused may be capable of

if they had a bet then viffer would be required to share what he knows (divulge sources ect) in order to collect imo
...seems viffer, who is not telling all he knows, has a problem with Alec not telling all he knows...
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Old 12-04-2011, 12:39 AM   #659
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should just settle this with a heads up match between viffer and alec.
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:42 AM   #660
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I'll bet you five dollars Alec didn't know he was robbing Perky's backer.
ok and ill also bet alex knew he was robbing the best wrstling pokerplayer.
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:56 AM   #661
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I'll bet you five dollars Alec didn't know he was robbing Perky's backer.
ill bet you 5k he wont pass a lie detector test stating that what he knew knew he was taking advantage of someone, i dont know the exact way to word it, but ill bet he cant honestly say he didnt know perky was getting staked and was dumping, and perky was steeling from someone. or what ever someone that understands me could transulate.

nice of you to show how much faith you have in alec tho, 5 whole dollars, not even a meal at mc donalds, and what happened to the other issac he came in answered one question then didnt answer mine.


also what happened to alec offering to answer any questions i had for him, then crickets!!!!!!!

he just takes the 5th, i know one thing i wouldnt want him judging me if i was a player in the epl and him judging the ethics, welll maybe i would want him judging mine if i was wrong but if i wasnt well i guess i might not mind him either.

i will also bet 5k alec wont take a lie detector test on any of this and make the results public.


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yes its like me laying 2-1 on the first bet.
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Old 12-04-2011, 02:54 PM   #662
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Would love to hear Alec's response to the above post by Viffer. Might be too stressful to answer tho.
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:24 PM   #663
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Viffer...5 dollars is life-changing money. This is getting intense. You'd better lay down that money.
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:13 PM   #664
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Re: Perky Debt

Polygraph questions have to be asked in yes or no format. Also it is acceptable to give person being tested the questions in advance. So no surprises cause false reads, among other reasons.

They of course are not 100% but are very very useful IF administered by a QUALIFiED examiner.
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:36 PM   #665
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Viffer, why don't you just sit down in the 100/200 nlh at the Aria and set up the polygraph there:

(BrokeLivingJRB) Ladies & Gentlemen, @AlecTorelli is the 1st person ever to post up in Iveys room w a rack of red chips. +27k

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Old 12-04-2011, 08:34 PM   #666
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ill bet you 5k he wont pass a lie detector test stating that what he knew knew he was taking advantage of someone, i dont know the exact way to word it, but ill bet he cant honestly say he didnt know perky was getting staked and was dumping, and perky was steeling from someone. or what ever someone that understands me could transulate.

nice of you to show how much faith you have in alec tho, 5 whole dollars, not even a meal at mc donalds
I guess the joke didn't work. I'm inclined to believe you. My point was that if someone needs to bet for you to tell us how you know that Alec knew what was going on, I'll put $5 toward the cause.
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Old 12-04-2011, 09:25 PM   #667
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my guess is viffer doesnt consider himself the kind of guy to go out of his way to rat people out and by raising questions itt hes done his part make the community aware of what the accused may be capable of
Not the kind of guy to rat someone out? huh? You do realize he has done this same kind of thing before right?
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:46 PM   #668
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I think it is very outrageous that Alec has not returned to this thread.
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Old 12-04-2011, 11:15 PM   #669
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I think it is very outrageous that Alec has not returned to this thread.
This.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:54 AM   #670
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Not the kind of guy to rat someone out? huh? You do realize he has done this same kind of thing before right?
you didnt understand my post
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:05 AM   #671
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but he went on a 5 day vacation...a month ago
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Old 12-05-2011, 04:03 PM   #672
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I guess the joke didn't work. I'm inclined to believe you. My point was that if someone needs to bet for you to tell us how you know that Alec knew what was going on, I'll put $5 toward the cause.
viffer I don't understand why you need to basically be paid to expose what you know. its not much of a "bet" when one side has 100% of the info.
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Old 12-05-2011, 04:32 PM   #673
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this is all so amazing
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:13 PM   #674
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ok and ill also bet alex knew he was robbing the best wrstling pokerplayer.
Ohhhh ok now it makes sense. ish.

Viffer how do you miss what Ike was trying to say? Ike I'm tempted to ell you that you are an expert at ascertaining what level someone's on but I'm pretty sure you just ran like god with that "$5" comment
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Old 12-06-2011, 05:33 AM   #675
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Any news on this Viffer since you were in Iveys room with Alec tonight?
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