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Old 11-21-2011, 01:23 PM   #526
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why was my last thread elelted.


wh7 was every thng i strted about the stox trader dealings deletd. i font troll here i contribute to the comunity and warn them whe i can, i pointed out a heavily ceheated acandal andi spell nad. i guess spelling andcorrect grammor is more important then truth.


noah is a hero for his help with the stock scandal and i am barred,

Mods delete first and ask questions later. It's ridiculous. Several scandals have developed from "deleted posts". It's particularly obnoxious when mods are the friends of the accused and will just delete the thread on their friend's request.
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:23 PM   #527
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Mods delete first and ask questions later. It's ridiculous. Several scandals have developed from "deleted posts". It's particularly obnoxious when mods are the ones scamming.
FYP

although that got fixed pretty quick since cornell fiji scammed someone respected.
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:21 PM   #528
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It's really easy to get angry and think mods are just doing their friends a favour when looking at it from this side, but a lot of the time those threads are locked for a good reason and are discussed in the modding forum.

I mean it doesn't even seem like any of the HSNL mods are friends with Torelli. I can't remember viffer's thread well but if it provided no evidence or anything different than what he's said ITT then there's not much need for a new thread yet.

I have no sides here I'm just saying it's not always easy to understand why threads are locked but given that the most active hsnl mods seem to be ike, mikech and noah i'd be super surprised if there wasn't at least a decent reason so yeah probably best to just chill out and wait to see what happens.

edit: not responding to this thread after viffer's posts does look really bad for traheho though. Man if he really is guilty of this stuff it'd be so sweet to see him get owned after making this thread.
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Old 11-21-2011, 04:33 PM   #529
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Why would he come back? This thread will drop off the map in a week or two and be forgotten. What HSNL really needs is a sub-forum for 'Scam Artists, Cheats & Lowlives'
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:12 AM   #530
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IIRC gr8's new thread claimed that Torelli had stolen from him.

Dunno why proof hasn't been forthcoming.
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Old 11-25-2011, 08:28 AM   #531
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its been nearly a month op, i assume u got ur money back by now?
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:27 PM   #532
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http://blogs.pokernews.com/AlecTorel...moral-code.htm
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:37 PM   #533
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Just wow.

Unbelievably pathetic he didn't directly address the accusations in this thread. This isn't an instance of some attack on him that has been going back and forth and dragging on for 6 months. He has now been outed as a possible thief and scammer. I wanted to reserve judgement and here what he had to say in regards to the later details that Viffer revealed but the coward didn't even bother to respond.

This looks very bad and I must say, at this point it has to be more likely than not he is VERY guilty.
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:16 PM   #534
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Reads like a terrible imitation of dog is head's writing style, yuck.
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Old 11-25-2011, 06:25 PM   #535
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is that confirmed as him? it seems like a hoax or something b/c its so painfully bad
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:15 PM   #536
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10 other archived posts in a similar style stretching back to Aug '10, so its probably him.
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:35 PM   #537
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In terms of real world examples with the same shark-fish dynamic, pawn shops do have to return stolen items they bought.
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Old 11-25-2011, 07:44 PM   #538
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Alec has no obligation to return the money that was chip dumped to him. What no one knows, other than Alec, is whether or not he knew or had reason to believe perky was dumping a backer's money. If he knew that is pretty douchy to continue, but if I were in his shoes 150k is a lot of money and I would probably be looking out for myself.
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Old 11-25-2011, 08:11 PM   #539
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Alec has no obligation to return the money that was chip dumped to him. What no one knows, other than Alec, is whether or not he knew or had reason to believe perky was dumping a backer's money. If he knew that is pretty douchy to continue, but if I were in his shoes 150k is a lot of money and I would probably be looking out for myself.
^if that is the case coming down on perky hard for another 85k might be the nutlow since perky would know if he knew.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:14 PM   #540
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Alec has no obligation to return the money that was chip dumped to him. What no one knows, other than Alec, is whether or not he knew or had reason to believe perky was dumping a backer's money. If he knew that is pretty douchy to continue, but if I were in his shoes 150k is a lot of money and I would probably be looking out for myself.
If he knew it, it wasn't "douchy." If he knew, he was a willing accomplice to a theft. If you're willing to do that to get 150k, call it what it is. It's equivalent to perky deciding he's going to rob a jewelry store in order to pay Alec and Alec agreeing to be the getaway driver. He is both ethically and criminally responsible.

edit: It sounds in this post like I'm assuming Perky definitely robbed his backer and the only question is whether or not Alec knew. I have no idea what the facts of the matter are, I'm just commenting on the ethics of the hypothetical.
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:39 PM   #541
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lol if he wrote that then he is a moron
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Old 11-25-2011, 09:44 PM   #542
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lol if he wrote that then he is a moron
The fact that he started this thread confirms it.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:03 PM   #543
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Just wow.

Unbelievably pathetic he didn't directly address the accusations in this thread. This isn't an instance of some attack on him that has been going back and forth and dragging on for 6 months. He has now been outed as a possible thief and scammer. I wanted to reserve judgement and here what he had to say in regards to the later details that Viffer revealed but the coward didn't even bother to respond.

This looks very bad and I must say, at this point it has to be more likely than not he is VERY guilty.
Obviously this. ****ing unreal that he can make this thread, do nothing to refute anything said against him, then disappear and end up writing that. That plus his terrible writing makes my blood boil.
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Old 11-25-2011, 11:23 PM   #544
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Why do people always try to be so abstract when avoiding the real issue which is them being a sad unethical person.
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Old 11-26-2011, 01:55 AM   #545
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Old 11-26-2011, 05:05 AM   #546
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why does he make a bigass analogy to lord of the rings and suddenly throw in ERAGON in the mess? Koby Bryant? WTF IS THIS ****.JPEG
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Old 11-26-2011, 05:36 AM   #547
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"I'm not bothered by what they think, so i'm gonna make a blog post about it and let them know."
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Old 11-26-2011, 05:40 AM   #548
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but he has a pic and a vid of OMAR there,
yes mother****ing OMAR.
so its all good now, 2plus2 loves OMAR
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Old 11-26-2011, 07:37 AM   #549
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ugh his self-fellating writing style could not be more obnoxious
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Old 11-26-2011, 08:04 AM   #550
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LOLOLOOLOL
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