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12-31-2013 , 03:43 PM
Merge - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $3.32
BB: $10.00
Hero (UTG): $13.19 18/5/0.0 22h
MP: $16.32
CO: $13.05 43/32/1.3 23h
BTN: $10.63

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has 8 8

Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.35, 4 players) 2 Q Q
Hero bets $0.67, fold, CO raises to $2.46, fold, Hero calls $1.79

Turn: ($6.27, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets $4.18, Hero raises to $10.43 and is all-in

if he's fos otf then should i just 4b there? ott am i turning a made hand into a bluff? If I think he's fos then should I let him bluff off? If I think he will call off with A/K hi 2 or 3 is that too hopeful? i felt if i just called I would have to avoid like half the deck otr then I'd be ****ed and have to check fold? Would it be better to just call off? or just fold otf? thanks

Last edited by Buffalo Soldier; 12-31-2013 at 03:51 PM.
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12-31-2013 , 03:53 PM
Flop is fine, turn line turns your hand into a bluff, just flat and call river.

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12-31-2013 , 05:48 PM
His range is polarised on the flop to the nuts or air. Usually it's air unless there is some dynamic. The raise is rather big. But ofc, just call. Same on the turn you simply fold out the bluffs and have your ass handed to you when you are behind.
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12-31-2013 , 06:31 PM
gentlemen - if he piles it otr are we folding? On a card <8?
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12-31-2013 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Buffalo Soldier
gentlemen - if he piles it otr are we folding? On a card <8?
Don't think it really matters what card comes on the river since villain is only repping a Q/boat so it's not like villain is semi-bluffing with a draw, especially given the odds we'll be getting. Having said that, I suspect that 88 will be at the very bottom of our calling range.

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12-31-2013 , 11:10 PM
The hero's bet into four spots, there is a person to at behind the raiser, and there are no draws on the board.


Is villain ...really ...bluffing enough here?
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12-31-2013 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBaconWarrior
The hero's bet into four spots, there is a person to at behind the raiser, and there are no draws on the board.


Is villain ...really ...bluffing enough here?
Probably not, but are you calling with any non trips/boat hand? I agree it's a strong line so folding the flop cannot be bad tbh since it's multiway.

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12-31-2013 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise804
are you calling with any non trips/boat hand?
In this spot, I can't see it being profitable.

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Originally Posted by mackeleven
Usually it's air unless there is some dynamic.
Really disagree with this
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01-01-2014 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mackeleven
His range is polarised on the flop to the nuts or air. Usually it's air unless there is some dynamic.
First part being true doesn't necessitate the second part being accurate.

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01-01-2014 , 01:59 AM
I'm snap folding flop after he raises. Definitely folding turn. To be honest against 3 other players I'm not going to cbet here either. Chances are pretty good one of them has a queen and I'm not going to triple barrel this board if someone calls to find out if we're been bluffed or not.
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01-01-2014 , 02:17 AM
Yea I didn't realize it was multiway and four handed at that.

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01-01-2014 , 02:40 AM
And 99 is at the bottom of our range 22 is at the top #drunknew yearsposting

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01-01-2014 , 05:00 AM
fold flop
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01-01-2014 , 05:41 AM
Fish can reraise there with trips or full house.I will reraise there with trips vs some regs cos they think that am bluffing but am not
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01-01-2014 , 11:56 AM
B/F flop. I'd be surprised to see that B/C on this texture with 88 is +EV. As the villain I would always raise trips in this spot because most micro players, especially rocks, cannot release dominated PPs when they should. I have news for you dude most of the time he is not bluffing here.

Normally I don't care but why don't you post the result this time.
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01-01-2014 , 03:30 PM
I was pretty drunk myself. Indeed fold flop.
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