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is it ok to float this flop? is it ok to float this flop?

07-31-2010 , 01:57 PM
I raised easly position. And i saw a flop i could float and maybe still hit top pair. He lead out pot and i called. The turn came another flush card so i bet big to push him off a weak pair maybe. ANd he called. And then the river is another 10. What do you do in this spot? Do you shove? Lead small or check? Is this even a good float against this player who potted the flop and snap called the turn? his pfr was only 4 and his vp was 8 through 51 hands so he was very tight.

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NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($9)
BB ($10.10)
Hero ($14.43)
CO ($10.59)
BTN ($10.76)

Dealt to Hero T A

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

FLOP ($0.75) 6 8 J

Hero checks, BTN bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

TURN ($2.25) 6 8 J T

Hero bets $1.35, BTN calls $1.35

RIVER ($4.95) 6 8 J T T

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07-31-2010 , 02:00 PM
dont check/call this flop when your the one who opened , make a c-bet of around .5

as played value bet river
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07-31-2010 , 02:03 PM
bet flop or check/fold

you didnt bet big on the turn... why did you try to push him off of a weak pair anyway? you have all weak pairs drawing basically dead
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07-31-2010 , 02:05 PM
either cbet flop or c/f, prob c/f against this guy

in general c/c is asking villain to keep barrelling you if he is any good


b/f river
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07-31-2010 , 02:11 PM
i was doing the johny chan take it away on the turn. I was balancing out my post flop play. I had lead to many flops already and they were picking up on it so i check called this one. And then lead the turn.
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07-31-2010 , 04:01 PM
Bet more on the turn, say 1.75+, if you're going to push him off a weak pair.
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07-31-2010 , 04:18 PM
c/c flop is horrible. You probably wouldn't lead turn if you had the flush and the fact the flush came in might well stop villian betting so u get a free draw to the nut flush plus you've now got some showdown value. I don't really understand either of your plays here.
Also now u've got trips, i don't even think u can lead as i don't see what is in a tight villians range that u beat that will call any bet. Think the only way u potentially make money here is check call any reasonable bet and hope he doesn't check behind, which is also highly likely.
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07-31-2010 , 04:27 PM
donk bet flop>>>>check fold>>>>>check call

as played bet/fold river
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07-31-2010 , 05:50 PM
You aren't floating here because you had the pf initiative. To "float" you call a cbet with a view to taking the pot away if the pf aggressor/cbetter checks the turn.
Also betting $1.35 into $2.25 isn't a big bet and the board has str8/flush/tp and set possibilities all over it, it's wetter than bath time in a swamp. Truly it is a terrible choice of board to make any sort of play against someone who called a pf raise and had position. And add he only plays 8/4 so this is the wrong player to make a deep complex bluff against
As it stands check river. I think you're ahead enough of the time to bet for value, but the more I look at this hand the more confused I get. If he bets he probably has the better hand given wet board and his tight image. He's checking behind a lot of his range though.
Leave the Johnny Chan to Johnny Chan and simplify your game somewhat
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