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Old 03-30-2010, 01:01 PM   #4876
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MP was 14/14 fairly tight and CO was big fish that i was trying to iso by 3bing
jamming turn really isnt necessary...
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:03 PM   #4877
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Had my first small losing session in 2 weeks, had been making the EV line my ***** and now I'm bummed though i really shouldn't be

Weird hand. 5c6c from bb. MP limps, btn isos, i call and MP calls. Stacks are 120bb deep.

flop is 4hJd7c. flop goes check check check.

Turn is a 4c. now I have oesfd. Co bets 100% pot, btn raises to 3x pot. I fold... Co calls

River is 8x. Co shoves, btn calls, I am annoyed because both have bare 4.

But i think fold is 100% standard b/c Co can come back over the top of the turn raise?
The fold is 100% standard preflop
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:08 PM   #4878
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jamming turn really isnt necessary...
Why not?
Wanted to maximise FE, i assumed he would fold anything that isnt TT+
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:11 PM   #4879
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Re: *** Official March uBBV thread nsfw ***

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MP was 14/14 fairly tight and CO was big fish that i was trying to iso by 3bing

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($8.40)
BB ($30.08)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($35.09)
CO ($14.47)
Hero ($35.23)

Dealt to Hero Q A

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, Hero raises to $3.25, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $2.40, fold

FLOP ($7.70) 8 T 2

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG+1 calls $5.50

TURN ($18.70) 8 T 2 J

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $26.48 (AI), UTG+1 folds

Hero shows Q A

Hero wins $17.77
yeah i like
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:12 PM   #4880
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Re: *** Official March uBBV thread nsfw ***

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Why not?
Wanted to maximise FE, i assumed he would fold anything that isnt TT+
you're both deep enough that a standard bet leaves enough behind, plus it gives the illusion of FE.

I mean what range are you honestly jamming in this spot? are you really jamming sets and 2p in this spot?
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:18 PM   #4881
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you're both deep enough that a standard bet leaves enough behind, plus it gives the illusion of FE.

I mean what range are you honestly jamming in this spot? are you really jamming sets and 2p in this spot?
No true, i dont have many sets in my range but he probably doesnt know that. Although i guess i do considering the fish.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:18 PM   #4882
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you're both deep enough that a standard bet leaves enough behind, plus it gives the illusion of FE.

I mean what range are you honestly jamming in this spot? are you really jamming sets and 2p in this spot?
He's not repping 2pairs, hes repping monster draws + overpairs, AJ and sets too.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:19 PM   #4883
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He's not repping 2pairs, hes repping monster draws + overpairs, AJ and sets too.
I'm def not overbet shoving sets, AJ or overpairs, or really anything on that turn.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:21 PM   #4884
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lol no i live in dublin
Represent!

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Old 03-30-2010, 01:29 PM   #4885
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I'm def not overbet shoving sets, AJ or overpairs, or really anything on that turn.
I guess it depends on the situation, some situatiopns I'd definitely shove overpairs n sets.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:39 PM   #4886
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i want to crush april.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:39 PM   #4887
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you're both deep enough that a standard bet leaves enough behind, plus it gives the illusion of FE

I mean what range are you honestly jamming in this spot? are you really jamming sets and 2p in this spot?
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I'm def not overbet shoving sets, AJ or overpairs, or really anything on that turn.
we don't have a made hand here, we're trying to increase our fold equity and get our money in behind but when we have the most equity. the pot is $19 and we have $26.50, there really is so little room to make a standard bet. also why would we want to give the illusion of FE? we only have A high.

we can definitely credibly rep overpairs, and less likely sets given how the board texture is starting to coordinate a bunch, and even if we're called by sets/2 pair, we still have 14/15 winners, although his only likely combos of these are JJ/TT/JT.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:45 PM   #4888
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we don't have a made hand here, we're trying to increase our fold equity and get our money in behind but when we have the most equity. the pot is $19 and we have $26.50, there really is so little room to make a standard bet. also why would we want to give the illusion of FE? we only have A high.

we can definitely credibly rep overpairs, and less likely sets given how the board texture is starting to coordinate a bunch, and even if we're called by sets/2 pair, we still have 14/15 winners, although his only likely combos of these are JJ/TT/JT.
because he knows he will still have to call another barrel. I dont know, I feel that making a smaller than psb bet does the same thing as jamming turn and imo is a more credible line...

I might be wrong here, but I just think jamming actual looks like we are trying to create FE and doesnt make sense for our perceived range. If we make a standard bet I think our perceived range makes a lot more sense. Not to mention I'm sure there are a number of underpairs in his range which c/c and are likely c/f to a lot of turn cards(coincidentally this is a great turn for both our hand and to not help a lot of villains range).

Last edited by dcredskins24; 03-30-2010 at 01:49 PM. Reason: also its not like villain is some loose passive fish, given stats hes probably just a bad nit...
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:47 PM   #4889
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i want to crush april.
Honestly April's gunna raped like an Albanian *****.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:49 PM   #4890
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what betsize would you make it then, out of interest? also obviously, this card is awesome both for our actual hand, our perceived range and our hand v villain's range.

whilst i do see your point, i think its more applicable deeper, and above NL25. i'm confident we don't need to worry about balancing our range so i think we can definitely tailor make betsizes to suit our needs
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:51 PM   #4891
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what betsize would you make it then, out of interest? also obviously, this card is awesome both for our actual hand, our perceived range and our hand v villain's range.

whilst i do see your point, i think its more applicable deeper, and above NL25. i'm confident we don't need to worry about balancing our range so i think we can definitely tailor make betsizes to suit our needs
yea, maybe I'm just thinking about the hand too much.

ehh probably something like 14ish or so on the turn...
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:18 PM   #4893
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i want to crush april.
I need to crush April -_-

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Anyone want a Regs game? I need to take a shower and eat I'll be ready in 30
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:29 PM   #4894
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Ryan, I posted in Regs thread. I'll be around at some point, just not sure when.

Who else is down for a game?

The last one had a pretty special 700+bb pot.
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:31 PM   #4895
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Here it is.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

rockstar821 (BB): $11.65
kidacao (UTG): $35.10
EATITPAL (MP): $23.65
27felted (CO): $31.05
Hero (BTN): $41.10
I TAKE MANEY (SB): $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 7 9
kidacao raises to $0.30, 27felted says "are u running hot or just that good?", EATITPAL raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, Hero says "im terrible", 2 folds, kidacao calls $0.70

Flop: ($3.15) 7 T 2 (3 players)
kidacao checks, EATITPAL bets $3, Hero raises to $10.50, kidacao raises to $34.10 all in, EATITPAL folds, Hero calls $23.60

Turn: ($74.35) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($74.35) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $74.35
kidacao shows T T (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
Hero mucks 7 9
kidacao wins $71.35
(Rake: $3.00)
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:54 PM   #4896
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i just wanna crush april because i think i broke through a few huge leaks/theory issues in march, thats all
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Did you just call me Ryan? o.O
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lol no i live in dublin
oh lol, well then...ignore everything i said
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:19 PM   #4899
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feeling pretty f'd up because of the dexter season ending, ffs
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:24 PM   #4900
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He snapped obv.

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Hero ($47.04)
BB ($27.25)
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CO ($25)
BTN ($46.25)

Dealt to Hero A K

fold, CO raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, Hero raises to $3.25, fold, CO raises to $9, fold, Hero raises to $47.04 (AI), CO calls $16 (AI)

FLOP ($51.10) 2 6 J

TURN ($51.10) 2 6 J 6

RIVER ($51.10) 2 6 J 6 J

Hero shows A K
(Pre 47%, Flop 5.2%, Turn 0.0%)

CO shows 2 2
(Pre 53%, Flop 94.8%, Turn 100.0%)

CO wins $48.55
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