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Old 03-16-2010, 08:26 PM   #2676
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Re: *** Official March uBBV thread nsfw ***

Yeah sure, Rush is definitely a different beast than generic 6max but I don't think pre-flop shoving ranges vary at all, villains definitely aren't leveling in 5bet pots 300bb's deep at 25NL, Rush or not, so after his 5bet, Rush or not is kind of out of the equation.

Flatting 3bet > everything else 300bb deep, also keeps both of our ranges as wide as possible
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:31 PM   #2677
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Your ranges are not wide at all as it is, he has 5b you, you are flatting his 5b. I think we can narrow your hands down pretty well tbh.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:31 PM   #2678
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Re: *** Official March uBBV thread nsfw ***

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wow some guy just raised 8x first hand hu and hit and ran with my bb
did you comment on his ptr by any chance?

cause a guy did the samne to me, i go to comment on his ptr (when i found out i couldnt :S) and someone has commented exactly that on it already.

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Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $41.30
Hero (BB): $112.80

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with J J
BTN/SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN/SB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.00) 4 5 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $5.00, BTN/SB raises to $37.80, Hero calls $32.80

Turn: ($82.60) 2 (2 players)

River: ($82.60) A (2 players)

Final Pot: $82.60
BTN/SB shows Q 3
Hero shows J J
BTN/SB wins $82.10
(Rake: $0.50)

Hand #2
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BTN/SB: $67.45
Hero (BB): $84.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K K
BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, BTN/SB calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.00) 8 J 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, BTN/SB raises to $20, Hero raises to $55.50, BTN/SB calls $35.50

Turn: ($121.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, BTN/SB raises to $6.95, Hero calls $0.95

River: ($134.90) J (2 players)

Final Pot: $134.90
BTN/SB shows K 8
Hero shows K K
BTN/SB wins $134.40
(Rake: $0.50)
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:34 PM   #2679
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Re: *** Official March uBBV thread nsfw ***

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Your ranges are not wide at all as it is, he has 5b you, you are flatting his 5b. I think we can narrow your hands down pretty well tbh.
No, when I flat his 3bet, not 5bet.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:37 PM   #2680
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No, when I flat his 3bet, not 5bet.
Well then yes this is true.
Here's a question though, you flat his 3b, board comes 85442 and he triple barrels.
You ?
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:38 PM   #2681
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Well then yes this is true.
Here's a question though, you flat his 3b, board comes 85442 and he triple barrels.
You ?
Call it down .
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:41 PM   #2682
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did you comment on his ptr by any chance?

cause a guy did the samne to me, i go to comment on his ptr (when i found out i couldnt :S) and someone has commented exactly that on it already.

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yeah i did
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:41 PM   #2683
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Call it down .
... and stack 99-QQ (you get the idea), which is why calling 3bet > 6bet/calling.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:49 PM   #2684
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... and stack 99-QQ (you get the idea), which is why calling 3bet > 6bet/calling.
Yeah i like calling 3b but do you really think he triple barrels 99,TT maybe even JJ.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:55 PM   #2685
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I don't see it being out of the realms of possibilities that he 3barrels 85442 with overpairs, more JJ than 99 obviously, but with no reads, what can 'ya do. It's much better than 4bet/folding or 6bet/calling, which are our only other lines, so it's easily the best play to call 3bet and call down.

Maybe we re-evaluate the river, but I'm 100% calling the flop and then this turn and decide what to do when the river bricks again.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:17 PM   #2686
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Hero (MP): $200.00
CO: $305.75
BTN: $197.25
SB: $226.95
BB: $280.40
UTG: $399.75

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP with 5 6
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, BTN calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17.00) 4 3 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN raises to $34, Hero ?
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Anything on villain?
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:21 PM   #2688
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3bet small
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:25 PM   #2689
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Re: *** Official March uBBV thread nsfw ***

call and check/shove or min3bet are all options aggo. it's pretty dependent on if he has a bluffing range on the flop and if he will continue bluffing with that range on the turn.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:26 PM   #2690
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Re: *** Official March uBBV thread nsfw ***

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Wait you want to 6bet this deep? Just to make sure he folds QQ and AK right?

i dont assume competence in unknowns. Dude might just be raising every hand and getting it in every time and won the last couple. Who cares we have the nuts....write it off as a huge cooler if we lose but i wouldnt sweat the omg 300BBs until it was somewhere around 500bbs or so. Who knows hes over there telling himself if you 5 bet hes gonna have to lay down his KK.


EDIT: Not to mention we are at least 20% to have a 600bb stack i mean what more do u want
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:27 PM   #2691
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Re: *** Official March uBBV thread nsfw ***

also ty for rungood today pokerstars!

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Old 03-16-2010, 09:31 PM   #2692
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call and check/shove or min3bet are all options aggo. it's pretty dependent on if he has a bluffing range on the flop and if he will continue bluffing with that range on the turn.
Just my 2pence but to me calling and c/shoving the turn screams nuts. I know i dont know what its like at SSNL but i like min 3b the flop i think, reps a wide range imo.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:35 PM   #2693
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Just my 2pence but to me calling and c/shoving the turn screams nuts. I know i dont know what its like at SSNL but i like min 3b the flop i think, reps a wide range imo.
so does c/c'ing a reasonably sized bet on the turn which is why c/shove on the turn is basically the same as c/c. honestly either option is fine with limited reads and should have a miniscule effect on your winrate.
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BB: $25.76
UTG: $11.18
MP: $22.59
Hero (CO): $75.52
BTN: $117.11
SB: $31.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN raises to $2.90, 2 folds, Hero raises to $7, BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $31, BTN raises to $117.11 all in, Hero calls $44.52 all in

Flop: ($151.39) 2 3 J

Turn: ($151.39) 9

River: ($151.39) 7

Final Pot: $151.39
Hero shows K K (one pair, Kings)
BTN shows 2 7 (two pair, Sevens and Deuces)
BTN wins $148.39
(Rake: $3.00)

Okay, I lied.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $25.76
UTG: $11.18
MP: $22.59
Hero (CO): $75.52
BTN: $117.11
SB: $31.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN raises to $2.90, 2 folds, Hero raises to $7, BTN raises to $15, Hero raises to $31, BTN raises to $117.11 all in, Hero calls $44.52 all in

Flop: ($151.39) 2 3 J

Turn: ($151.39) J

River: ($151.39) 7

Final Pot: $151.39
Hero shows K K (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
BTN shows A A (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
BTN wins $148.39
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:42 PM   #2695
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I saw the first HH and was like :O:O
But then saw the 2nd and was like, you bastard lol
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i feel like im half running good and half not running good

does that mean im running normal?
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:50 PM   #2697
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halfway normal which is what I call my current stretch after 2+ months of being cornholed
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:58 PM   #2698
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okay vs whale?

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BB ($2)
UTG ($14.54)
UTG+1 ($14.26)
Hero ($11.32)
BTN ($17)

Dealt to Hero A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, fold, fold

FLOP ($0.85) 9 T Q

Hero bets $0.85, BTN calls $0.85

TURN ($2.55) 9 T Q 9

Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

RIVER ($6.55) 9 T Q 9 5

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Old 03-16-2010, 09:59 PM   #2699
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ldo
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:00 PM   #2700
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^^ seems fine
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