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Is this river bet spew?
He's a reg that obviously thinks a little bit hence the 3b J4J flop note.
Only notes are
floated BvB KKJ bet turn when checked to
3b J4J flop with K9

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $43.20
Hero (BB): $29.65
UTG: $45.50
CO: $25.00
BTN: $36.75

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with J

2 folds, BTN raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.10) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

River: ($11.10) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $7.75

03-22-2010 , 12:28 PM

#3577

kidacao

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sevenduc dont go mental on everynit you face :P

george: i rather c/c than b/f , but c/f might be the best here

Last edited by kidacao; 03-22-2010 at 12:30 PM. Reason: uhm i might c/c here :O

03-22-2010 , 12:29 PM

#3578

sevendeuc24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kidacao

you are betting all your value hands on this flop, you rep nothing taking this line imo.

ya i no i don't rep much, except maybe a random 8, but his river betsizing is basically what made me c/r

03-22-2010 , 12:30 PM

#3579

sevendeuc24

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but seriously, who raises a set there

03-22-2010 , 12:32 PM

#3580

kidacao

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yeah but what nonbluffs are u 3betting in this flop =/

03-22-2010 , 12:34 PM

#3581

sevendeuc24

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pretty much nothing, but just think how strong his flop range that continues to this 3bet has to be if he doesn't realize this

03-22-2010 , 12:34 PM

#3582

aggo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by verneer

Why won't you give the nit credit?

why does he deserve credit?

03-22-2010 , 12:36 PM

#3583

kidacao

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i rather call than 3bet, and c/shove some backdoor equity. bet the river if he checks behind

03-22-2010 , 12:38 PM

#3584

Brian J

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fattony7891

Aw, thought that he was only 100k deep or something, didnt seem to have many chips in front of him. If he doesnt think he can get value then its still obviously an insta call. Not much thinking to be done on it.

he was thinking if he should raise not if he should fold

03-22-2010 , 12:38 PM

#3585

sevendeuc24

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i think he's barreling too much and were not gonna hit a diamond or T/Q on the turn often enough to c/shove

03-22-2010 , 12:38 PM

#3586

aggo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kidacao

i rather call than 3bet, and c/shove some backdoor equity. bet the river if he checks behind

at ssnl+ this is probably the preferred line. at uNL, I would argue differently

03-22-2010 , 12:38 PM

#3587

kidacao

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

he was thinking if he should raise not if he should fold

he just said that to look cool

Quote:

Originally Posted by aggo

at ssnl+ this is probably the preferred line. at uNL, I would argue differently

fold flop? :P thats what i would do if its the first time he gets out of line..

03-22-2010 , 12:42 PM

#3588

EATITPAL

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I wish i did c/f

03-22-2010 , 12:44 PM

#3589

aggo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kidacao

fold flop? :P thats what i would do if its the first time he gets out of line..

no

because 15/11s at uNL are more likely to do this with AJ than at ssnl IME.

3betting is fine, as long as you fire the rest of the shells.

03-22-2010 , 12:45 PM

#3590

EATITPAL

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I cant have a freakin winning session at nl25

03-22-2010 , 12:46 PM

#3591

sevendeuc24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aggo

no

because 15/11s at uNL are more likely to do this with AJ than at ssnl IME.

3betting is fine, as long as you fire the rest of the shells.

are we barreling any turn that doesn't pair the board if he calls?

03-22-2010 , 12:47 PM

#3592

fattony7891

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

he was thinking if he should raise not if he should fold

Yea, but its not as if he was thinking whether to call a triple barrel in a 3b pot w/4th pair ala Ivey, he had the 2nd nuts.

03-22-2010 , 12:47 PM

#3593

kidacao

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if the board pairs we are most likely to barrell because harder for him to have a set?

03-22-2010 , 12:48 PM

#3594

sevendeuc24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kidacao

if the board pairs we are most likely to barrell because harder for him to have a set?

but if he calls the flop 3bet with say for example AJ, nothing really changes, and it's also harder for us to have one

03-22-2010 , 12:54 PM

#3595

kidacao

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it will depend on the range we are putting on him, hes not folding a set with or withouth a paired board, a J on the turn can be different but im betting it anyway, if u put him on a small PP or 56(?) you should barrell when the board pairs ... meh this is why i like folding the flop if its the first time he gets out of line.

03-22-2010 , 01:04 PM

#3596

sevendeuc24

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ya i think folding is fine the first time around, and he probably shoves or fold 56 on the flop

03-22-2010 , 01:19 PM

#3597

Ksight3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin9_90

To some up spraggys post

Ksight sucks

Where the hell did this come from?

03-22-2010 , 01:30 PM

#3598

aggo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sevendeuc24

ya i think folding is fine the first time around, and he probably shoves or fold 56 on the flop

i mean, is it bad that I think this is all wrong?

I'd never fold here just because "i give him credit" or "i believe" there would have to be other reasons to fold than him being 15/11, which doesnt signify anything other than his preflop range. I want these players to be suspicious of me, I don't want them to think that I'm just going to stay in line for the whole session and always show up with the goods.

03-22-2010 , 01:30 PM

#3599

Krax

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grind time!!!

my head hurts like crazy and Im on lifetilt (school trouble) so Im just going to put in min. amount to get ironman covered.

let the goodrun continue....