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Old 02-03-2009, 05:26 PM   #276
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I hate the ****ing subway, to crowded and always delayed.
I got a mostly reverse commute, but the T is a hub and spoke system (Hub of the Universe, ldo) so I gotta go in before I go out. The trolleybus on the way in can get pretty screwed up once snow and ice build up on the overhead lines, and those are the same days a lot of car owners don't feel like digging out.

I could never do the full 15 klicks to work (that's 9 1/2 miles for us non-standard people ), but I like cutting out that part. Plus I get a real car-free scenic bike path for three fifths of the way to the bus terminal.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:37 PM   #277
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I come from a place where people say: If it's free, take it

so if somebody would send me a link or so, so I can sign up for the training site, that would be awesome

I am no member of both sites, is that a problem?

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Old 02-03-2009, 05:52 PM   #278
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9k bitches. I has no life.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:21 PM   #279
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I come from a place where people say: If it's free, take it

so if somebody would send me a link or so, so I can sign up for the training site, that would be awesome

I am no member of both sites, is that a problem?

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I signed up for the Stox to be the primary since its a lower FTP requirement than CR.

seem pretty straightforward and I haven't had any problems (Just make sure you use a unique password for trust purposes)

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Old 02-03-2009, 06:22 PM   #280
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I got a mostly reverse commute, but the T is a hub and spoke system (Hub of the Universe, ldo) so I gotta go in before I go out. The trolleybus on the way in can get pretty screwed up once snow and ice build up on the overhead lines, and those are the same days a lot of car owners don't feel like digging out.

I could never do the full 15 klicks to work (that's 9 1/2 miles for us non-standard people ), but I like cutting out that part. Plus I get a real car-free scenic bike path for three fifths of the way to the bus terminal.
The T is soooooo bad on days like this. Come to think of it... it's always annoying.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:42 PM   #283
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Also, January sweat and session review threads are still stickied imo.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:49 PM   #284
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Massive beat: Not even any cost of living increase this year for employees at my company. No prospect of any raises for at least another year (so 2 years total).

Variance: Is it possible to find another job in this climate?

They are putting the screws to us just because they can. I calculated the effect of throwing every employees a bone (a raise). It makes very little difference to the success or failure of the company. We spend most of our money elsewhere. It's just a highly visible point of discussion for a public company.

This is the stuff they don't tell you about in school. Why do I work hard again?
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:54 PM   #285
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I signed up for the Stox to be the primary since its a lower FTP requirement than CR.

seem pretty straightforward and I haven't had any problems (Just make sure you use a unique password for trust purposes)

http://www.trulyfreepokertraining.com/
I did this too, but when Feb. 1 rolled around I got a confirmation from Cardrunners for membership this month, but not one from Stox? (I checked junk mail too.)

Anyone else have this happen? (Haven't tried to log into either yet since the first.)

I can confirm I didn't prepay a month of either one. Totally free and doesn't affect MGR / rakeback.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:56 PM   #286
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Massive beat: Not even any cost of living increase this year for employees at my company. No prospect of any raises for at least another year (so 2 years total).

Variance: Is it possible to find another job in this climate?
I don't think we've seen nearly the worst of the fallout from the economy yet, and these "bail-outs" will probably just extend the pain. You might feel pretty lucky in 12 months if this is the only effect.

Not that it doesn't suck. I know it does. But, silver lining and all that.
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I signed up for the Stox to be the primary since its a lower FTP requirement than CR.

seem pretty straightforward and I haven't had any problems (Just make sure you use a unique password for trust purposes)

http://www.trulyfreepokertraining.com/
it sounds really good, think i am going to do

But i want card runners...... if i miss my points i just don't get it right?
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:07 PM   #288
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it sounds really good, think i am going to do

But i want card runners...... if i miss my points i just don't get it right?
yes, no fee incurred or anything.
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Do you like Stox better sammy, or was it only the points?
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the economy crisis... wake up and smell the coffee.
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There are definitely two sides to every situation. There is a horrible economic crisis. But is it right to use it as an excuse to abuse people when it has no real effect on outcome?

That's my question.
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Do you like Stox better sammy, or was it only the points?
points, and Split is there so.....I heard DC is really good, probably will try that out once I run through Stox and CR.
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There are definitely two sides to every situation. There is a horrible economic crisis. But is it right to use it as an excuse to abuse people when it has no real effect on outcome?

That's my question.
well, it depends...the shareholders of the company would say that management would need to be fiscal responsible with tough outlook over the next 12 months, and for most companies salaries are an overhead expense. But good management says that you need to reward employees or your morale (follow by operations and results) will go down the toilet. Basically the company can not reward its employees right now because of the economy and the unemployment rate, BUT in the long run it will cost them loyality and there best people will leave first.
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The T is soooooo bad on days like this. Come to think of it... it's always annoying.
I just want one north south bus in my town, but overall our trolley buses are the most reliable part of the whole system. I've spend a good part of my life waiting for a bus or train on your side of the river and I don't even live there!

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Have you considered becoming really good at a popular game of skill played for money? I can give you a link to a related message board. Just PM me.

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these "bail-outs" will probably just extend the pain.
They should have just nationalized the banks months ago. But that's how Congress approaches any crisis: throw money at it and hope it goes away. But at least all of Secretary Paulson's buddies got their Xmas bonuses.

Oh and let the housing market fail so I can finally afford a house. Houses should not cost 100x what they did 50 years ago.

The stimulus will help, but if things get bad bad I hope they have money left. CWA >> PWA, imo.

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Also, January sweat and session review threads are still stickied imo.
Well, I for one, have not done my session review yet. But i guess I can unstick the sweat thread.
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I will no doubt regret getting into this.

EU issues warning over Buy America plan

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The European Union has warned of possible trade litigation against the US if Washington presses ahead with a Buy American provision in its forthcoming economic stimulus bill.

EU officials have expressed concern that the requirement for companies to use US steel and manufacturing products in projects funded by the bill could encourage a wave of protectionist measures from other countries.
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

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In an article in the August issue of the Journal of Political Economy, Ohanian and Cole blame specific anti-competition and pro-labor measures that Roosevelt promoted and signed into law June 16, 1933.

"President Roosevelt believed that excessive competition was responsible for the Depression by reducing prices and wages, and by extension reducing employment and demand for goods and services," said Cole, also a UCLA professor of economics. "So he came up with a recovery package that would be unimaginable today, allowing businesses in every industry to collude without the threat of antitrust prosecution and workers to demand salaries about 25 percent above where they ought to have been, given market forces. The economy was poised for a beautiful recovery, but that recovery was stalled by these misguided policies."
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well, it depends...the shareholders of the company would say that management would need to be fiscal responsible with tough outlook over the next 12 months, and for most companies salaries are an overhead expense. But good management says that you need to reward employees or your morale (follow by operations and results) will go down the toilet. Basically the company can not reward its employees right now because of the economy and the unemployment rate, BUT in the long run it will cost them loyality and there best people will leave first.
Yep, those are indeed the two sides of the coin. At face value, suppressing wages makes sense. However, when you start to look at the math for specific situations and realize that in some cases even a 10% increase (generous raises) across the board for employees would represent only a 1% increase in annual budget over the previous year, the steadfast suppression of employee wages does not seem to be *the* factor that will *save* many companies. However it will certainly hurt moral and work ethic. I do feel that times like these reveal the true character of management teams.

I am of course discussing generalities. Who knows how far the eye of big brother reaches.
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Have you considered becoming really good at a popular game of skill played for money? I can give you a link to a related message board. Just PM me.
Haha interesting idea. So far 25 NL isn't good enough to me to break off the "golden handcuffs" though. They do feel loose though.
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Yep, those are indeed the two sides of the coin. At face value, suppressing wages makes sense. However, when you start to look at the math for specific situations and realize that in some cases even a 10% increase (generous raises) across the board for employees would represent only a 1% increase in annual budget over the previous year, the steadfast suppression of employee wages does not seem to be *the* factor that will *save* many companies. However it will certainly hurt moral and work ethic. I do feel that times like these reveal the true character of management teams.

I am of course discussing generalities. Who knows how far the eye of big brother reaches.
1% is a hell of a lot if your heading into the red imo.

Of course that's speculation, no doubt a good number of people at the top are taking significant advantage of the situation by keeping wages down even in healthy companies.

It is true though, that some peoples true character is revealed when times get tough. I have several customers that I busted my balls for last year who won't even pick up the phone or answer an email to tell me where my money is.
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