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08-08-2010 , 12:29 AM
the guy just changed his fb status, he is allright, thank god.

udbrky, this is not a bar/pub. This is fairly big club. None of us know anybody in the stuff. Its not like anybody recognizes us as regs, even though we are there fairly often, just because there is ****load of people every night.

vithel, pretty sure that 99% of people there didnt even notice that something was going on, so l turning off music is not an option. I basically asked cuz I dont know if getting my ass kicked was the right play, there isnt much else I could have done. Realistically, Im fairly certain that anything I might do to get bouncer's attention, except for smashing glass to his head, would take much more time than that fight.
Whatever, next time I'll be able to think quicker. I hope so.

Last edited by Krax; 08-08-2010 at 12:35 AM.
08-08-2010 , 12:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VithelTone
If theres no music, grab a chair and break it on the floor, try to make a loud noise with it (firing a gun to the air works better, but i assume you didnt have one or you will be asking for advice on where to bury a bouncer). If theres music on, just go to the dj and hit stop yourslef (or ask him if hes nice)

They will stop fighting when they hear that, when they stop, approach them in a calmed motion and say something like "we are leaving, sorry for the inconveniance" Grab your friend and leave.

I did the chair thing, i broke it over a table, they all turned to look at me, i calmly said that and we left no problem
+1! -1 for the gun. a good way to get screwed fast...

however, if the bonce is a ass ****. then... if you break more **** , your drunk, your going to get your ass kicked. and make sure there is no way to report it to the police. because your drunk and you did break something ...

break a bottle then drop it really quick. so you arent seen as a threat.

then walk your friend out, call the ****** manger and the cops
08-08-2010 , 12:34 AM
Um, bottle/chair to the head can lead to you being in a LOT of trouble.

This spring, we went to our regular bar. It was my roommate, one of his longtime friends who went there a decent amount and I. Dudes start **** with our friend, my roommate steps in (his motto in life is the same as Vin Diesel's in Knockaround Guys). The 4 get into it, end up with the 2 other guys being tossed, and my roommate outside alone with the 2 dudes being all nice.

The friend goes nuts. He ends up on the patio and picks up beer bottles and starts throwing them at the dude. One ends up hitting a random girl int he head.

So I pull the dude back in the bar, my roommate gets himout the back and they leave. I stick around to pay the tab and have another beer. Cops come and file a report. To this day, we still do not know if they're looking for our friend or not.

But this is asking for trouble to hit someone in the head like that. Especially when they're an employee, charged with keeping the place safe. The bouncers have to really screw up to face charges. So the chances are, you'll do jail time in taking that advice.

You have to realize that most bars/clubs have video cameras in them and you can believe that you go to court, the jury's goin to be watching you hit the bouncer in the head.
08-08-2010 , 12:34 AM
semi interesting back to back hands on one table of 50nl 50bb

First hand, UTG is a 95/3 so i call the 3 bet light when i get kinda squeezed by the bad TAG on the button.


Hand #1
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $91.85
SB: $42.70
BB: $20.00
UTG: $28.75
Hero (MP): $36.35
CO: $47.65

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with A J
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $6, 2 folds, UTG calls $5.50, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($18.75) 3 A 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $9.50, UTG folds, Hero calls $9.50

Turn: ($37.75) J (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, BTN raises to $76.35 all in, Hero calls $13.35 all in

River: ($79.45) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $79.45
BTN shows K A (two pair, Aces and Threes)
Hero shows A J (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero wins $76.45
(Rake: $3.00)

Very next hand has the huge fish in the BB. I get a lot of calls i think because everyone wants to play against the fish who will inevitably call as well. Flop check isnt standard but i think i chose the right spot with two TAGs behind me and a fish who can act after them.

Hand #2
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $55.50
BTN: $42.45
SB: $19.50
BB: $22.75
Hero (UTG): $76.45
MP: $47.65

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 9 9
Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, CO calls $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1

Flop: ($6.25) 9 3 J (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $2, BTN raises to $6.50, BB folds, Hero calls $6.50, CO calls $4.50

Turn: ($25.75) J (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

River: ($25.75) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $17.50, CO folds, BTN raises to $34.45 all in, Hero calls $16.95

Final Pot: $94.65
BTN shows J A (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero shows 9 9 (a full house, Nines full of Jacks)
Hero wins $91.65
(Rake: $3.00)
08-08-2010 , 12:35 AM
Countdown to comstizzle doing jail time.
08-08-2010 , 12:39 AM
omg, wanna grind, but nl50 and even nl25 games dont run right now.

******ed euro networks
08-08-2010 , 12:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by udbrky
Um, bottle/chair to the head can lead to you being in a LOT of trouble.


You have to realize that most bars/clubs have video cameras in them and you can believe that you go to court, the jury's goin to be watching you hit the bouncer in the head.
oh cmon bro this is rediculous. On the very very low % chance this could end up in court one day, all a jury will see is some crazy huge guy beating a defenseless man unprevoked and needing to be stopped. You obviously couldnt do this with a fair fight so you used as little force as necessary to to stop the conflict immediately. A good lawyer would turn you into a hero.
08-08-2010 , 12:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by immadeadbird
+1! -1 for the gun. a good way to get screwed fast...

however, if the bonce is a ass ****. then... if you break more **** , your drunk, your going to get your ass kicked. and make sure there is no way to report it to the police. because your drunk and you did break something ...

break a bottle then drop it really quick. so you arent seen as a threat.

then walk your friend out, call the ****** manger and the cops
Obv joking about the gun man
08-08-2010 , 12:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDoranD
oh cmon bro this is rediculous. On the very very low % chance this could end up in court one day, all a jury will see is some crazy huge guy beating a defenseless man and needing to be stopped. You obviously couldnt do this with a fair fight so you used as little force as necessary to to stop the conflict immediately. A good lawyer would turn you into a hero.
I don't think it's that clear cut.

1) the bouncer works at teh bar.

2) What did the guy say/do?

3) How guaranteed is it that when you hit the bouncer, it will incapacitate him long enough for you all to get out? And how likely do you think it is that the other bouncers are going to not come to his aid? This is a good way for you and your friend to get your asses kicked even worse.
08-08-2010 , 12:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VithelTone
Obv joking about the gun man
well still needs to be said. because you never know some idiot trolling on this forum may see that post, then when he is i drunk get a ****ing gun out and shoot something....

wow.. my grammar sorry im tired... gonna fix this
08-08-2010 , 12:48 AM
Krax: If there's no bottle / barstool or w/e just kick the guy in the balls -> grab friend and gtfo ldo.

Spoiler:
In all honesty I would get between the bouncer and my friend before taking any last resort actions (i.e. bottle to the head, barstool, etc)


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Just watched Inception.

HEAD ASPLODE.
08-08-2010 , 12:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDoranD
oh cmon bro this is rediculous. On the very very low % chance this could end up in court one day, all a jury will see is some crazy huge guy beating a defenseless man and needing to be stopped. You obviously couldnt do this with a fair fight so you used as little force as necessary to to stop the conflict immediately. A good lawyer would turn you into a hero.
Fairly certain that most judges will see sober bouncer doing his job and couple of drunk students that have nothing better to do than getting wasted on saturday night. I mean, its not like we could get a ton of witnesses. Most of the people who saw this were unknowns who wouldnt bother testifying/didnt really see and bar stuff (Im not sure what would they do/even if they saw how the **** did all this start).

At the end of the day, its word of the sober bouncer, who can say whatever he wants vs word of one drunk guy who was so ****faced that he couldnt walk, another guy who was just slightly less drunk and me and I didnt see how did this all start/was also drunk.

Not sure how would camera in a place like this work, since you cant see ****. But maybe there is footage, idk.


on another topic, bbv, its sunday 7am, still little bit drunk after sucky night.

1)call of duty modern warfare 2
2)the wire season 3 episode 2
08-08-2010 , 12:49 AM
By all means though, in a fight, make sure you do NOT HIT A COP. i have a friend who did this last year and narrowly avoided a long jail sentence + felony.
08-08-2010 , 12:53 AM
Kicking the balls is a better way - you're not doing serious damage, unless it's a freak thing. Whereas bottle to the head is not good. Just ask phwap (runner up in a PLO event this year). He took a beer bottle to the head a couple summers ago and had nerve damage around his eye.
08-08-2010 , 12:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by udbrky
Kicking the balls is a better way - you're not doing serious damage, unless it's a freak thing. Whereas bottle to the head is not good. Just ask phwap (runner up in a PLO event this year). He took a beer bottle to the head a couple summers ago and had nerve damage around his eye.
Sigh. kicking in the ball sounds great on paper, but its just not going to work in real time guys. They are up against a bar (presumably) and the bouncer is facing and up close on your friend. You can't effectively kick him in the balls from behind him so you aren't going to have an angle to pull this off.

Unless im mistaken about the arrangement, but I think that would require an MSPaint on the fight scene or something
08-08-2010 , 12:57 AM
How about grab your drunk ass friend before he passes out on the bar and gtfo?
08-08-2010 , 12:57 AM
@udbkry i'm cutty about my **** don't worry about me

tbh it's all about how you approach the situation. if u go the route of violence to as much damage as possible as quickly as possible and you have to to be certains there's nothing that can link you to the scene and get the off out of there as quickly as possible.

tbh don't u live in this russia or something tho? why not just cash out some of ur roll and pay of a judge if u get caught, or now bride the club owner to get the dude fired with horrible references?

edit forgot ur busto or something.
08-08-2010 , 01:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skraper
How about grab your drunk ass friend before he passes out on the bar and gtfo?
pretty much what my father told me. But how the **** are we supposed to know that something like this is going to happen? Its club ffs, everyone is ****faced. He stopped functioning roughly at 1am, and none of us had no means to get home till 5am.

comstizzle, would be an option 60k hands ago
(not really, but w/e)
08-08-2010 , 01:03 AM
Just got my U2711

2560x1440


Last edited by aesthetics; 08-08-2010 at 01:13 AM.
08-08-2010 , 01:04 AM
I like skraper's plan.

Get him out and go for a walk.

part of going out with friends and having their back is helping them avoid bad situations. Get him sober so he's not passing out.
08-08-2010 , 01:04 AM
cops always side with the bouncer. if cops find you after fighting with bouncer you head down to jail for a bit. if you assault bouncer with a weapon it can be much worse consequences.

bouncer probably didnt beat up your friend for literally no reason. friend was probably too drunk, bouncer told him to leave, friend is too drunk and sits there on stool, bouncer starts to push him off stool, friend wasted and wont budge, bouncer starts hitting him to get him moving, etc. just try to wedge in between them and start dragging your friend toward the door.

in all bar fights ive seen, ppl that try to use weapons and fail get beaten much worse. im not into kicking ppl while they are down, but if ppl come at me/friends with weapons its ok at that point to stomp on their head if you get em down. normally that is semi off limits in streetfights (same as biting and eye gouging).

if a friend gets into a fight with security its usually a tough snap decision as to get in there or not. i have friends that pick fights with security every time, and after a while u just gotta let them fight their own battles. i have other friends that never start nothin, so if they are scrapin u just know its not their fault and u gotta help em right away.

in your spot i would have started by just trying to grab an arm of my friend and drag him outta there and try to kinda wedge myself in between him and bouncer and expect bouncer to not start beating on me much since i didnt swing on him.
08-08-2010 , 01:07 AM
I'm a little late but on the Subs hand but I think the flop check is completely fine. I mean u dont always have to bet TP.


as played i just fold, i wouldn't give credit for them to bluff in that spot.
08-08-2010 , 01:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krax
on another topic, bbv, its sunday 7am, still little bit drunk after sucky night.

1)call of duty modern warfare 2
2)the wire season 3 episode 2
just sayin
08-08-2010 , 01:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz
i didnt know so many people perceived durrr as the favorite since jungleman already took 788k off durrr in 13k hands.
idk if i think durrrr is favorite but i do think its close either way and im a durrrr fan in general

if sharkbait started out askin for $100 in action the other way i probably would have taken that too lol

i think its gonna be awesome railing and a little juice on the side makes it more fun

durrrr is no fool tho and i dont know that he would be pushing jungleman to take the challenge if he felt that he was a huge dog to jungleman
08-08-2010 , 01:14 AM
August Volume Pool Update

benjamin barker - 80k - 100nl - PAID
skraper - 50k - 100nl - PAID
comstizzle - 80k - 25nl
kidacao - 60k - 50nl - PAID
eatitpal - 50k - 25nl - PAID
spraggy - 50k - 25nl - PAID
vitheltone - 80k - 50nl - PAID
daycareinferno - 350k - 5nl - PAID
dcredskins24 - 25k - 25nl - PAID
decon50 - 60k - 50nl - PAID
dint - 50k - 25nl - PAID
stackajawea - 50k - 50nl - PAID
elusive - 100k - 50nl - PAID

everyone is paid up except comstizzle, he pm'd me and said he needs a few more days before he can ship and i'm ok with that

im gonna ask everyone to post/pm screenshot updates around the 15th or so just so we can all know how everyone is faring

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updates in bold

vitheltone voluntarily upped his goal to 80k hands, cuz he is just that sick

i thought that was pretty cool so i bumped mine up to 80k as well (much smaller increase for me than what he did tho)

i need to go 80k/month at 100nl the rest of the year to unlock the double supernova milestone bonus, so im probably gonna keep running this pool if it works out well this time

as an update, im 25k in after 1st week

      
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