Yeah stoplosses shouldnt be applied to a $$$$ or BI amount, you just have to be self aware enough to know that your no longer +EV in the games for whatever reason and quit.

I often quit playing some of my tables when i'm tilted and just play ones with mega fish or where i have jesus seats and find that works pretty well, i enjoy playing poker too much to quit mid session though or have a stop loss and i quite enjoy variance anyway,

i agree with this, but they were saying with a stop loss you should never lose 10 in a day. This means quitting the whole day before breaking 10

besides, the whole point is that you shouldn't be looking at hem during a session to see how much you are up/down

The key deciding factor should be how are you feeling? I've found that +/-4bi is the point where the money starts making me think differently. It starts to be about the money, I want to win to make back losses, so I'll play differently. Or I don't want to lose more and won't pull the trigger. 4bi and I want to go celebrate.

Some days, I make 2bi fast and just want to go to the bar.

People have different tolerances and it should be based on when you think you're playing at a level that isn't profitable.

I also reviewed some months a while back and realized that if I'd just quit in those sessions where I drop a bunch and start feeling it, I would have had way better months.

but the point is different for everyone and depends on your tolerance for swings.

this again. A set number seems dumb for a game where so many things are different every session

sigh, lol at the commentators at this liverpool match, liveprool are doing this well that well, joe cole is amazing look at that he completed a 5yard pass, jesus ****ing christ, this team they are playing are so ****ing ****, i think the local pub team would give them nightmares, get the **** over it commentators!! get ur face from joe coles arse checks, stop ****ing saying england went out because he never played, ****kkkkkkkk, we should give this team an extra 5 men, to close us down to make it a good match, i think i saw gerard yawning, while deciding where to pass, sigh sigh sigh sigh sigh

coming from a liverpool fan to

I've played so many sessions when I feel like ****. Just because I feel ****ty doesn't mean that I am able to stop. That's what tilt is. Conversations go like this:

Friend: How are you feeling?
Me: I'm really tilted this session.
Friend: You should stop playing.
Me: No.

A set number for EVERYONE is dumb, but a set number for you as an individual is perfectly fine I think. I don't play my A-game if I lose 5 BI's in a session.

if u dont pick a safe low number, then people have a high risk of thinking they can tolerate more losing without tilt than they actually can. its very difficult to self-analyze and figure out your optimal number. play it safe imo.

more like

Friend: How are you feeling?
Me: artjigjerijgopwe flop a set 3% of the time and ran into set over sex 2x
Friend: you should stop playing
Me: No. I should get coaching on flopping more sets and less coolers

I guess that doesn't mean I'm not tilted but it's more of a "blah looks like it's time to grind my way out" kind of mentality. it's similar to complaining about a crappy boss at a job even though it pays well.

it is in plo

Lol i had this EXACT conversation a lot of times...

Well if thats how you feel thats fine, but you were basically implying there is no solid winner that doesnt have a stop loss, and Im telling you thats very untrue

what?

If you're playing bad, how can quitting be bad.

i didnt say you should continue to play if you are playing bad, i am saying having a stop loss will lose you money because you should still be profitable in your games even if you lose x amount of bis.

quitting is for quitting, and riding a bike is most comparable to riding a bike

am i a idiot for not understanding the meaning of this ?

I think you make a good point.

You guys aren't really arguing mutually exclusive points.

It should be based more on when your play deteriorates too much.

For less experienced players, you should set more of a bi stop loss until you're comfortable spotting when you need to step back.

And for a lot of people, the swings are hard to take.

Sometimes drugs help understanding.

To put it another way:

Quitters Quit

It's easy really, stop playing when you're not making +EV decisions. What's harder is knowing when you're not making +EV decisions, this selfknowledge comes with time and practise.

Oh hey - relevant thread

sammy-g on downswings

UD I was pretty much tryna say waht you said and I agree with swiiftx too.

The main reason I think people should use a stoploss though is because they aren't honest with themselves. They make a bad play and say "OH, Im running so abd" then they keep playing and lose more.

Being down != playing bad

Edit: but +1 for people not being honest about their mental state.

Yeah, swift really put it well.

The other reason is that most people aren't good enough to take several big losses in stride without having it affect their play.