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08-04-2010 , 03:34 PM
Rate my floor failness

this is the leak on the bathroom roof 10 mins ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTxAE9cO1-A
08-04-2010 , 03:35 PM
At least it's dripping into the sink.
08-04-2010 , 03:36 PM
thats a bad leak you gotta get someone in there ASAP
08-04-2010 , 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
My opponents range is Jx and underpairs. I can very viably have Ax. Not that it should matter because he can't hand read and will just fold all underpairs and maybe even Jx.

He called because he is down 4k on PTR not because I am unbalanced.

You are talking nonsensical drivel. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
you expect a fish to fold jx on river lol, not to mention villain has ax in his range.
08-04-2010 , 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by verneer
Questions about U.S. Poker Legislation?

I'm going to be part of a discussion tomorrow about the current bill going through the House which would look to legalize and regulate online poker. I'm supposed to represent the everyday players so I wanted to know what kind of questions/concerns you guys you.

Let me know and I'll pass them on.
i mainly want to know what timetables we would be looking at for new regulations actually going into effect and being enforced

also how will taxation work? will winnings be taxed like normal income? will pokerstars (if they are still here) send me something like a W2 at the end of the year?

obviously we dont want the government taking too big a piece of the pie since it will probably result in increased rake and such. are they considering standardizing rake structures?
08-04-2010 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
My opponents range is Jx and underpairs. I can very viably have Ax. Not that it should matter because he can't hand read and will just fold all underpairs and maybe even Jx.

He called because he is down 4k on PTR not because I am unbalanced.

You are talking nonsensical drivel. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Well obviously he didn't fold his underpair. And that balanced thing really is pure drivel. Spraggy is balanced to Ax and bluffs, not that it matters at all.
Sure if he was very good and these spots came often and they played a few thousand hands together, Spraggy might have to start considering balancing his range in a spot like this.

The thing is they prob don't play thousands of hands together, these spots don't come all the time and villain is not MSNL HSNL player.

What matters more is if the villain is simply willing to fold a pair, he obviously isn't. Balance has nothing to do with it, infact against this villain we have to be unbalanced and have only valuehands there, no bluffs. Villain has a pair almost always and if he for some reason didn't, we beat his non pair hands except Kx anyway.
08-04-2010 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kidacao
Rate my floor failness

this is the leak on the bathroom roof 10 mins ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTxAE9cO1-A
Interesting. When can we expect part 2 of this new LeakFinder Series?

Last edited by MDoranD; 08-04-2010 at 03:57 PM.
08-04-2010 , 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lumileijona
Well obviously he didn't fold his underpair. And that balanced thing really is pure drivel. Spraggy is balanced to Ax and bluffs, not that it matters at all.
Sure if he was very good and these spots came often and they played a few thousand hands together, Spraggy might have to start considering balancing his range in a spot like this.

The thing is they prob don't play thousands of hands together, these spots don't come all the time and villain is not MSNL HSNL player.

What matters more is if the villain is simply willing to fold a pair, he obviously isn't. Balance has nothing to do with it, infact against this villain we have to be unbalanced and have only valuehands there, no bluffs. Villain has a pair almost always and if he for some reason didn't, we beat his non pair hands except Kx anyway.
if villain is a fish than balancing means nothing obv. But if villain is even somewhat competent, it is easy to deduce that calling is fine here. since, spraggy will never checkback Jx on turn and will check back his air on turn since it is a terrible double barreling card. Spraggy also would checkback Ax on flop some % of the time since he has showdown equity. Lastly, if villain range is weighted toward underpairs why would he pot river if he wants value from these hands.
08-04-2010 , 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDoranD
Interesting. When can we expect part 2 of this new LeakFinder Series?
lol u are master of the groaners
08-04-2010 , 04:08 PM
what's the point?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($39.45)
BB ($25)
UTG ($82)
UTG+1 ($47.75)
Hero ($114)
BTN ($100)

Dealt to Hero 2 2

fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, BTN raises to $5.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $4

FLOP ($13.25) 2 8 4

Hero checks, BTN bets $13.25, Hero raises to $40, BTN calls $26.75

TURN ($93.25) 2 8 4 8

Hero bets $69.10 (AI), BTN calls $54.90 (AI)

RIVER ($203) 2 8 4 8 T

Hero shows 2 2
(Pre 18%, Flop 90.8%, Turn 90.9%)

BTN shows T T
(Pre 82%, Flop 9.2%, Turn 9.1%)

BTN wins $200

-------------

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($126)
BB ($76.70)
Hero ($50)
UTG+1 ($21.55)
CO ($18.35)
BTN ($49.10)

Dealt to Hero K K

Hero raises to $1.75, UTG+1 calls $1.75, fold, BTN calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB raises to $12, Hero raises to $28, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $76.70 (AI), Hero calls $22 (AI)

FLOP ($105) 2 3 A

TURN ($105) 2 3 A 6

RIVER ($105) 2 3 A 6 5

Hero shows K K
(Pre 18%, Flop 0.9%, Turn 0.0%)

BB shows A A
(Pre 82%, Flop 99.1%, Turn 100.0%)

BB wins $102

----------------

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($36.55)
BB ($15.45)
UTG ($51.90)
UTG+1 ($100)
Hero ($54.50)
BTN ($128)

Dealt to Hero K A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, BTN raises to $5, fold, fold, Hero raises to $13.50, BTN raises to $128 (AI), Hero calls $41 (AI)

FLOP ($109) 3 Q 6

TURN ($109) 3 Q 6 9

RIVER ($109) 3 Q 6 9 J

Hero shows K A
(Pre 44%, Flop 1.6%, Turn 0.0%)

BTN shows Q Q
(Pre 56%, Flop 98.4%, Turn 100.0%)

BTN wins $106
08-04-2010 , 04:12 PM
Missed value? Or leveling like a boss

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($10)
BB ($40.39)
UTG ($13.47)
Hero ($28.97)
CO ($16.79)
BTN ($11.87)

Dealt to Hero A K

UTG raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.95, fold

FLOP ($2.45) 4 A 5

BB checks, Hero bets $1.80, BB calls $1.80

TURN ($6.05) 4 A 5 J

BB checks, Hero bets $2.30, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $7.70

RIVER ($26.05) 4 A 5 J 3

BB checks, Hero checks

BB shows 6 Q
(Pre 37%, Flop 10.4%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero shows A K
(Pre 63%, Flop 89.6%, Turn 100.0%)

Hero wins $24.32


I thought I went all-in on the turn then realised I was almost 3bi deep

Finished session in a solid -4BI ... f*** rush poker. Btw anybody plays nl10sh rush?
08-04-2010 , 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz
if villain is a fish than balancing means nothing obv. But if villain is even somewhat competent, it is easy to deduce that calling is fine here. since, spraggy will never checkback Jx on turn and will check back his air on turn since it is a terrible double barreling card. Spraggy also would checkback Ax on flop some % of the time since he has showdown equity. Lastly, if villain range is weighted toward underpairs why would he pot river if he wants value from these hands.
Yes. But Wizard. He was a bad reg who can't hand read. He just doesn't like the look of 77-TT at the river when I pot it.

He is bad enough to call so now I'll stop bluffing him.
08-04-2010 , 04:19 PM
Bad spewy regs get rewarded for not being able to adjust.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $27.32
Hero (BTN): $26.49
SB: $43.48
BB: $41.63

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $5.50, SB raises to $43.48 all in, Hero calls $20.99 all in

Flop: ($53.23) 4 A 8

Turn: ($53.23) 7

River: ($53.23) 7

He had AQ obv.
08-04-2010 , 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joephe
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $27.82
BTN: $58.85
Hero (SB): $54.72
BB: $32.07
UTG: $25.00
MP: $28.35

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q A
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.15

Flop: ($6.25) 3 7 A (2 players)
Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5

Turn: ($16.25) T (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $14, BTN calls $14

River: ($44.25) J (2 players)
Hero bets $32.72 all in, BTN calls $32.72

Final Pot: $109.69
BTN shows A J (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Hero shows Q A (a pair of Aces)
BTN wins $106.69
(Rake: $3.00)
spew.
08-04-2010 , 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
Yes. But Wizard. He was a bad reg who can't hand read. He just doesn't like the look of 77-TT at the river when I pot it.

He is bad enough to call so now I'll stop bluffing him.
calling there isn't particularly bad if ur bluffing if ur bluffing there alot.

ur also c/b flop some of the time with Ax and never have Jx or a better pocket pair.

also why would you pot it if u want value from underpairs?
08-04-2010 , 04:36 PM
You guys give 25nl fish way too much credit.

You completely mis understand his thought process.
08-04-2010 , 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by subs
freshman year i used to play music really loud and had a big subwoofer for my my computer... with the concrete walls that **** would resonate and basically shake the entire floor... the kid who lived next to me (who turned out to be a high stakes poker player) started calling me subs and it just stuck
this is actually a cool backstory
08-04-2010 , 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
You guys give 25nl fish way too much credit.

You completely mis understand his thought process.
like you expecting a random fish to fold jx on river is not giving a him too much credit
08-04-2010 , 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by udbrky
Did you have your laptop in the kitchen?
one time i put my laptop in the kitchen so i could watch HSP while washing ~3 weeks worth of dishes piled up in the sink (no dishwasher obv).

ib4 ygos
08-04-2010 , 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz
like you expecting a random fish to fold jx on river is not giving a him too much credit

At what point did his range become solely Jx?
08-04-2010 , 04:42 PM
if he's a fish more Jx than underpairs

3 barrel him if ur trying to get him off underpairs.
08-04-2010 , 04:44 PM
Yes and he also has Kx high hands. All underpairs. Some Jx. Which I now know he is unlikely to fold.

You guys do realise that at no point does he consider a)my hand b)how my sizing affects my range c)whether I ever play Jx like this for value.
08-04-2010 , 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
At what point did his range become solely Jx?
at what point did i say his range was soley Jx
08-04-2010 , 04:46 PM
if he can't hand read how do you expect him to fold when the A comes on the river?

He probably has a pair, or else he floated Ax oop.

wizards comment was bull**** and this discussion is bull**** because you guys are just arguing over some bull**** hand that doesn't matter its ****ing bbv you post stupid hands. its fine to jab each other back and forth but thsi ****ing **** has been going on for like a month now jesus christ when is it going to end

i don't expect that rant to change anything but i don't give a ****
08-04-2010 , 04:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
Yes and he also has Kx high hands. All underpairs. Some Jx. Which I now know he is unlikely to fold.

You guys do realise that at no point does he consider a)my hand b)how my sizing affects my range c)whether I ever play Jx like this for value.
lol you know this guy personally or just assume he does not think soley off his ptr

      
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