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08-04-2010 , 06:44 AM

#1001

subs

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lol no

08-04-2010 , 06:44 AM

#1002

ayuken

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nomeansno, the hyper simple theme is perfectly fine imo. Even better since stars implemented new card backs

08-04-2010 , 06:45 AM

#1003

Swiiftx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ph2133868789

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

SB ($25)
BB ($18.74)
Hero (UTG) ($25.15)
MP ($20.88)
CO ($25.73)
Button ($14.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

, K

Hero bets $0.75, 2 folds, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 2

, 6

, K

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.50) J

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Standard vs nondrooler reg?

Bet more, 2~ either he has a K and he's gona continiue or he doesn't.

08-04-2010 , 06:47 AM

#1004

ph2133868789

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Quote:

Originally Posted by subs

lol no

well?

08-04-2010 , 06:50 AM

#1005

Comstizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ph2133868789

, K

Hero bets $0.75, 2 folds, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.50) 2

, 6

, K

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.50) J

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Standard vs nondrooler reg?

depends if reg is decent or not. if reg is decent bet turn if he's stupid check back and bet river

08-04-2010 , 06:51 AM

#1006

NoMeansNo

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I'd open it 85c utg, lead flop 3-handed for 80% pot, bet/fold turn, bet/fold river.

08-04-2010 , 06:55 AM

#1007

VEfreak

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Checking turn could induce villain to fire a lot of rivers with worse hands.

08-04-2010 , 06:55 AM

#1008

cheryltweedy

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Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxGui...&feature=relat

Then Watch this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw

Don't watch it in the wrong order, though.

08-04-2010 , 06:56 AM

#1009

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VEfreak

Checking turn could induce villain to fire a lot of rivers with worse hands.

yeah... hands that would have called a turn bet....

08-04-2010 , 07:16 AM

#1010

VEfreak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by subs

yeah... hands that would have called a turn bet....

Do you think that checking the turn is ever a more profitable line when you think you are ahead of his range?

08-04-2010 , 07:22 AM

#1011

subs

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of course there are some spots where it is but...

against 99% of the people at these stakes you should bet 3 times

08-04-2010 , 07:24 AM

#1012

ph2133868789

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Ok, what is he seriously call, calling me w/ ? What is he betting river after I check? What is he check/raising? Am I wrong to say he isn't call calling KQ if I think he's any good? FWIW I think betting might induce a bluff but how happy am I when I get c/r here.

08-04-2010 , 07:27 AM

#1013

ayuken

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thing is, you wont get c/r without the nuts, and betting the turn allows you to bet the amount you want to, instead of having to call his bet on the river. Plus you don't give him a free card

08-04-2010 , 07:27 AM

#1014

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betting never induces a bluff unless hes a complete ******... hes pretty brainless if he folds KQ when you bet twice unless you are a nit who only bets the nuts

hes betting the river with top pair/2pair/sets if you check back the turn

08-04-2010 , 07:27 AM

#1015

Swiiftx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ph2133868789

People don't fold turn barrells w KQ on dry boards. However, if he's any good aka can fold TPGK on river to shove, you should be valuebetting thinner.

08-04-2010 , 07:29 AM

#1016

Swiiftx

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And yeah, if he has KQ,KTs etc if he's a bad reg, he's not going to turn his showdown hand into a bluff, at least 99% won't do it.

08-04-2010 , 07:31 AM

#1017

subs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiiftx

However, if he's any good aka can fold TPGK on river to shove, you should be bluffing more.

fyp.... ducy?

08-04-2010 , 07:33 AM

#1018

ph2133868789

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ayuken

thing is, you wont get c/r without the nuts, and betting the turn allows you to bet the amount you want to, instead of having to call his bet on the river. Plus you don't give him a free card

2-3 outs not a huge consideration, not saying it doesn't matter though

08-04-2010 , 07:34 AM

#1019

ph2133868789

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Quote:

Originally Posted by subs

fyp.... ducy?

damn you beat me

08-04-2010 , 07:36 AM

#1020

Swiiftx

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you didnt fyp, u added smth

and yeah it's a good 3barrell spot bluff without AK. But at these stakes u rarely play enough hands for it to become exploitable.

08-04-2010 , 07:37 AM

#1021

ph2133868789

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiiftx

People don't fold turn barrells w KQ on dry boards. However, if he's any good aka can fold TPGK on river to shove, you should be valuebetting thinner.

translation?

08-04-2010 , 07:37 AM

#1022

Swiiftx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ph2133868789

translation?

I ment betting less on river to get crying calls from worse Kx.

08-04-2010 , 07:39 AM

#1023

ph2133868789

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiiftx

I ment betting less on river to get crying calls from worse Kx.

that's what I figured but what is your turn sizing ... std sizing, yes?

08-04-2010 , 07:40 AM

#1024

Green_29

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has stars just came out of a shutdown or something?

I wake up this morning and go to play and there is literally hardly any tables, they are all full, there is literally no tables with 5 players on at nl10 or nl25, not even nl5 or nl2.

??? There were also only 40k players online?