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really?

I feel like there are tons of Jx hands in my range that I can rep once he checks turn.

He is never c/raising turn here and he is definitely bluffcatching here with worse some % of the time. And he probably expects me to give up a good amount on the river because he himself can def be c/calling turn thinking that I'm never calling with anything but Jx on the turn so there is no reason to bet?

08-28-2010 , 05:04 PM

#7953

sharkbaitOHH

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Sizing or just jam.
inb4foldpre.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($265)
BB ($94.50)
Hero ($177)
UTG+1 ($153)
CO ($49.60)
BTN ($101)

Dealt to Hero 2

Hero raises to $3, UTG+1 raises to $10.50, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $9.50, Hero calls $7.50

FLOP ($32) 8

BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $22, BB folds, Hero

08-28-2010 , 05:07 PM

#7954

aggo

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shoving is terrible i would c/r just enough that he doesn't get 1:5 on implied odds

edit: optimally however I would just c/r smallerish (like somewhere between 2.5-3x)

08-28-2010 , 05:11 PM

#7955

sharkbaitOHH

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aggo

shoving is terrible i would c/r just enough that he doesn't get 1:5 on implied odds

edit: optimally however I would just c/r smallerish (like somewhere between 2.5-3x)

alright, thanks.

08-28-2010 , 05:16 PM

#7956

cheryltweedy

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This is always nice.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $93.15
UTG: $56.45
MP: $76.90
CO: $54.95
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A

2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.75) Q

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $5, CO calls $5

Turn: ($20.75) T

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $12.50, CO raises to $44.95 all in, Hero calls $27.50 all in

River: ($100.75) A

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $100.75
CO shows 8

(three of a kind, Eights)
Hero shows A

(three of a kind, Aces)
Hero wins $97.75
(Rake: $3.00)

08-28-2010 , 05:20 PM

#7957

Brian J

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aggo

really?

I feel like there are tons of Jx hands in my range that I can rep once he checks turn.

i can see your reasoning but to play devil's advocate that's exactly the problem, even though you can rep jacks he never folds a monster so what's the point of repping a straight with top two pair when villain's range is nutted and he never folds anyway? Out of curiosity what was your plan for a blank river?

i am just assuming by the way that he was a pretty tight UTG opener given your preflop flat and that his range becomes nutted.

08-28-2010 , 05:24 PM

#7958

Brian J

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i went through a stretch yesterday of 4 set over sets across about a 20 minute span. I won two 100bb+ and lost two <60bb so it was fine, just hands like this are part of what makes this game stupid imo. Oh, and pocket deuces are set magnets. three of the hands involved pocket deuces.

i can remember the days when you could get AQ in on the flop confidently against another reg for 100bb on a qxx tt flop...

08-28-2010 , 05:27 PM

#7959

Comstizzle

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that turn is a fold cheryl

08-28-2010 , 05:28 PM

#7960

sharkbaitOHH

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Comstizzle

that turn is a fold cheryl

lol

really hope you're leveling because you know nothing about villain

08-28-2010 , 05:30 PM

#7961

Comstizzle

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yeh completely serious
half the things i post are level ido

08-28-2010 , 05:32 PM

#7962

Brian J

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it's a fold against most competent players and quite a few fish. actually i can only think of a few players it's not a fold against.
it's also a fold i am pretty incapable of making against most of those players

08-28-2010 , 05:33 PM

#7963

sharkbaitOHH

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oh okay, just checking

lolbrian

08-28-2010 , 05:37 PM

#7964

Comstizzle

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fwiw there are a few players i think it's a fistpump snap against, but i can't see a hand in his range most players would
a)c/r for value that we beat
b)be able to semibluff turn after calling flop
c)turn into a bluff

note i'm assuming most wouldnt c/r QJ/JJ/99 hands as a semibluff

08-28-2010 , 05:38 PM

#7965

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brian, if your stacking off range in 3bet pots doesn't include overpairs, what does it include?

08-28-2010 , 05:44 PM

#7966

Comstizzle

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why does ur stacking range in 3bet pots always have in include overpairs?

08-28-2010 , 05:46 PM

#7967

Brian J

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbaitOHH

brian, if your stacking off range in 3bet pots doesn't include overpairs, what does it include?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

note the white text...

08-28-2010 , 05:48 PM

#7968

z0mgtiltz

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Loool, Wizard has come and messed with your mind about folding AA in 3bet pots hahahaha.

08-28-2010 , 05:51 PM

#7969

Brian J

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i'm also playing a lot of rush lately...

08-28-2010 , 05:52 PM

#7970

sharkbaitOHH

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in the white text you're still saying it's a fold

whatever

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

i'm also playing a lot of rush lately...

stakes? i dont see you at the tables

08-28-2010 , 05:59 PM

#7971

DaycareInferno

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well, i got another power supply. still no good. does exactly the same. get fans, but won't boot. won't power down either. sucks

08-28-2010 , 06:16 PM

#7972

fattony7891

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

It's not a fold vs me. Because Im so facking crazy

Srsly though, don't fold AA there.

Last edited by fattony7891; 08-28-2010 at 06:24 PM.

08-28-2010 , 06:24 PM

#7973

Brian J

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fattony7891

It's not a fold vs me. Because Im so facking crazy

like i said, there are a few fish it's not a fold against

08-28-2010 , 06:29 PM

#7974

cheryltweedy

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I didn't have any post-flop reads, other than he was a 33/12. I did have a 37/32 image though after about 40 hands, 28% 3bet.

08-28-2010 , 06:29 PM

#7975

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

like i said, there are a few fish it's not a fold against

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