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08-27-2010 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
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08-27-2010 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon
This is comedy gold
hows that
08-27-2010 , 02:25 PM
dci sick job man
08-27-2010 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz
Turn is a fold against anyone decent.



To all the people disagreeing with me, atleast come up with a counter argument, Make a realistic range that AhAx has 31% equity against on the turn.

{ JcJh, JdJh, JhJs, 88, 55-44, JhTh, Th9h, 76s }

Equity of 32.44 against this range

If you add in TT or QQ with a heart, our equity improves a ton. If villian flats 3bets with tons of suited connectors our equity goes down, but not as much as you might think. If villian is capable of doing something donkish like flatting AK with the king of hearts once in a blue moon our equity goes up a ton.

Just a really marginal spot that I always call in because I like having my aces cracked.
08-27-2010 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by e i pi
{ JcJh, JdJh, JhJs, 88, 55-44, JhTh, Th9h, 76s }

Equity of 32.44 against this range

If you add in TT or QQ with a heart, our equity improves a ton. If villian flats 3bets with tons of suited connectors our equity goes down, but not as much as you might think. If villian is capable of doing something donkish like flatting AK with the king of hearts once in a blue moon our equity goes up a ton.

Just a really marginal spot that I always call in because I like having my aces cracked.
well if flats with 76s he probably is flatting other connectors also. I would assume villain would cc or cr with QhQx JhJx ThTx but i guess this is a matter of opinion.

TY for posting a range down and having some thought process behind your call.
08-27-2010 , 02:36 PM
wizard, its nl25 and villain is unknown. never folding
08-27-2010 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Stackajawea
not gonna lie, stacka finds the funniest pictures

can someone pull up that 4bet/call with 9 high i had the right image jpeg?
08-27-2010 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz
TY for posting a range down and having some thought process behind your call.
Meh i prefer "i haz aces"
08-27-2010 , 02:42 PM
sexy one out set mining 3b pots deep

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Absolute
SB ($8.40)
BB ($41.55)
UTG ($69.55)
UTG+1 ($40)
Hero ($44.73)
BTN ($65)

Dealt to Hero 8 8

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, fold, fold, BB raises to $3, fold, Hero calls $2.15

FLOP ($6.95) 8 7 6

BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BB raises to $8, Hero raises to $18, BB raises to $38.55 (AI), Hero calls $20.55

TURN ($84.05) 8 7 6 3

RIVER ($84.05) 8 7 6 3 Q

Hero shows 8 8
(Pre 66%, Flop 70.2%, Turn 81.8%)

BB shows A 8
(Pre 34%, Flop 29.8%, Turn 18.2%)

Hero wins $81.05
08-27-2010 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ligic
wizard, its nl25 and villain is unknown. never folding
Solid reasoning and is why most people dont make it out of the micros, you just click call without thinking about what villains range is in a given spot and how that range compares too your hand.
08-27-2010 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz
TY for posting a range down and having some thought process behind your call.
The way the hand played out is so weird I don't know if I actually would have called. A donk in a 3bet pot on a monotone board... It looks like a set or low flopped flush thats scared of having you check back. I think most thinking & loose passive players don't donk here with overpairs holding a heart. If the guys fishy or overly aggro in anyway his range is naturally wider because hes hoping for fold equity some of the time and it becomes more of a call.
08-27-2010 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by immadeadbird
... omg.... is that a 147 bi downswing??!!?1 lolz wiat wrong person mah bad thought it waas dci
Think it's 17

I thought it was 14 o.o

Realistically it's probably closer to a 12BI DS...several hands I spewed here and there
08-27-2010 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz
lol, yes i have the answer to every problem. I guess this is the last time i give advice on a hand since no else attempts too discuss it with me with any logical backing to their argument.

I said this is a fold vs anyone decent. I doubt "anyone decent" will make a brain damaged move here but i guess this is debatable.
you never replied to my first reply where i said im gonna assume an unknown NL25 reg is capable of playing like this with hands he shouldnt.

as i said in my next post, i've seen people take this line before with both ThTx, JhJx, QhQx, KhKx, as well as TT,QQ,KK no heart. im not disagreeing with you that it doesn't really make any sense to donk lead-shove with these hands but that doesn't mean they don't do it, especially after i just flat the flop. obviously, 88, the two other sets and flopped flushes are in his range aswell, and it may well be a fold, but you can't be all high and mighty about 'explain to me why its a call' when you initially just said its a fold vs anyone decent.
08-27-2010 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ksight3
Think it's 17

I thought it was 14 o.o

Realistically it's probably closer to a 12BI DS...several hands I spewed here and there
lol yea still sucks. jsut thought you were playing NL 5 and dci and had a massive downswing then had a massive upswing lolz

but yea seriously tho 17 bi down hurts lol gj with your restuckto lol
08-27-2010 , 02:59 PM
[x] lost more than i should have

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $100.00
UTG: $96.50
UTG+1: $104.90
UTG+2: $100.00
MP1: $57.55
MP2: $114.85
CO: $107.15
Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $40.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $2, 3 folds, CO raises to $10, Hero calls $10, 1 fold, BB calls $9, UTG+1 calls $8

Flop: ($40.50) 9 8 8 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $21, Hero calls $21, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $94.90 all in, CO raises to $97.15 all in, Hero folds

Turn: ($251.30) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($251.30) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $251.30
UTG+1 shows 9 9 (a full house, Nines full of Eights)
CO shows A A (two pair, Aces and Eights)
UTG+1 wins $248.30
(Rake: $3.00)
08-27-2010 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz
Solid reasoning and is why most people dont make it out of the micros, you just click call without thinking about what villains range is in a given spot and how that range compares too your hand.
no, i click call because with my experience i expect it to be +ev vs 95% of nl25 players

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

968 games 0.114 secs 8,491 games/sec

Board: 8h 4h 5h Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.289% 40.29% 00.00% 390 0.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 59.711% 59.71% 00.00% 578 0.00 { JcJh, JdJh, JhJs, TcTh, TdTh, ThTs, 9c9h, 9d9h, 9h9s, 88, 55-44, KhQh, QhJh, JhTh, Th9h, 7h6h, AhKc, AhKd }


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happy?
08-27-2010 , 03:03 PM
so much flame against micro stakes players in a micro stakes forum
08-27-2010 , 03:05 PM
in that AAv88 hand everyone is fighting about, what about raising flop?
08-27-2010 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ayuken
so much flame against micro stakes players in a micro stakes forum
lol your in bbv
08-27-2010 , 03:08 PM
i'd rather calldown bb, the spazzfactor is surprisingly high when playing vs unl randoms
08-27-2010 , 03:11 PM
he prob wont fold spazzes that contain a pair or a heart all that much facing raise maybe idk? and i dont think he folds any value hands.
08-27-2010 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno




sick job man!

a full weekend to spare no less

edit: how many vpps that worth?

Last edited by benjamin barker; 08-27-2010 at 03:20 PM.
08-27-2010 , 03:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCIaHoXjZVU

6:30 is the funniest thing i have ever seen
08-27-2010 , 03:20 PM
whats really sick is he is crushing at like 7 bb/100 24 tabling lolz
08-27-2010 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin barker
he prob wont fold spazzes that contain a pair or a heart all that much facing raise maybe idk? and i dont think he folds any value hands.
He'll prob fold a single heart and all other spaz to a flop raise/shove. If you just call hes shoving the turn with like 90% of his spazzes.

      
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