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08-22-2010 , 12:07 AM

#6476

VithelTone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skraper

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($136)
BB ($175)
UTG ($101)
Hero ($343)
CO ($201)
BTN ($143)

Dealt to Hero K

fold, Hero raises to $3, fold, fold, SB raises to $10, fold, Hero calls $7

FLOP ($21) A

SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10

TURN ($41) A

SB checks, Hero bets $27, SB calls $27

RIVER ($95) A

SB bets $89 (AI), Hero calls $89

SB shows J

(Pre 27%, Flop 2.1%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero shows K

(Pre 73%, Flop 97.9%, Turn 100.0%)

Hero wins $270

Sometimes you wonder what goes thru reg heads.

Trying to bluff you off AQ ldo

08-22-2010 , 12:08 AM

#6477

Insta-4Bet

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He was repping busted fd and hoping you'd call with any pair, but dumb because anything you value the flop and turn with is probably equel to or ahead of AJ.

08-22-2010 , 12:09 AM

#6478

Comstizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Megloooo

to get what better hand to fold?

we have clean outs to the nuts 300bb deep, backdoor nfd (both of which we'd have to fold if he 3bets the flop) and potentially the best hand, calling > anything else imo

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you should be betting the turn though nomeansno

Tx, any pocket pair he 3bet, he also continues with worse hand and in general just makes you difficult to play against. ur rarely going to get 3bet on this board texture also.

floating is prolly better tho if ur gonna play later streets well, but judging by the HH i think it's better for him to just raise flop

08-22-2010 , 12:15 AM

#6479

Insta-4Bet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Comstizzle

Ya I guess some better fold, but I was mostly thinking my hand was good more often than worse + overcard and draw.

08-22-2010 , 12:15 AM

#6480

Megloooo

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well if we wanna take -EV lines to be difficult to play against then that would connote hes a thinking player, and a thinking player would almost never fold Tx here. Pocket pairs arent really a problem seeing as he'll be c/fing them a decent amount on the turn so we can take it away pretty easily.

Also i kinda agree about not getting 3bet too often but theres a chance he does with big hands because of how deep stacks are and it sucks for us when it happens

08-22-2010 , 12:17 AM

#6481

kp1022

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Megloooo

^ pretty ballsy call

nh

TY. I timed down all the way and just figured I don't how/why villain would 3x overbet jam 250+bb's w/ a set. Also, one previous hand he c/r'ed me on a paired semi-wet board, 744dd, then bombed the turn on a brick. I gave him credit & folded but that gave me a sizing tell.

08-22-2010 , 12:21 AM

#6482

Dumuzi

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would u have called the river if it had been anything other than a Jack or Nine?

08-22-2010 , 12:23 AM

#6483

Comstizzle

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raising flop isn't -EV if he's 3betting PF that much

being difficult to play against is only one of the side benefits of raising. i think you underestimate aggrotards at low stakes most are cbetting this flop with their entire range. as i said i think floating is better if we play later streets well but i think if we're not we should take the marginal +EV of raising flop.

08-22-2010 , 12:23 AM

#6484

Megloooo

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dumuzi for your 3k post let out all that built up anger you have inside of you, ridicul everyones ptr and how bad the play is at Live at the Bicycle or w/e it was called

you will feel better for it

08-22-2010 , 12:24 AM

#6485

Megloooo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Comstizzle

raising flop isn't -EV if he's 3betting that much

its not as +EV as calling is though

08-22-2010 , 12:28 AM

#6486

kp1022

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumuzi

would u have called the river if it had been anything other than a Jack or Nine?

good ?...i was thinking about this as well, and tbh idk. I'd go by "feel" I guess. But trying to honestly put myself in that position, w/ just a bare TPMK and I think I'm folding more often than not, simply b/c for that price I dont think it is worth it.

Looking at it now the river 2p doesn't actually change the value of my hand all that much vs his range. Theres not really any 2p's except maybe 64 that I drew out on otr. So all in all I think if I'm calling here, I should be calling w/o the J or 9 otr.

08-22-2010 , 12:39 AM

#6487

immadeadbird

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Absolute
SB ($31.27)
Hero ($35.17)
UTG ($18.65)
UTG+1 ($6.13)
CO ($26.43)
BTN ($26.72)

Dealt to Hero 3

UTG raises to $0.85, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

FLOP ($1.80) 3

Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $3, UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $20.30, UTG folds

Hero shows 3

Hero wins $16.93
lol i dont understand that. but good fold for him =]

08-22-2010 , 12:41 AM

#6488

immadeadbird

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fear the restuckto! ( =] i cant spell )

edit: lolz mah bad

08-22-2010 , 01:47 AM

#6489

Steroid

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 59

poker is a sick game. started the month on a 12 buyin upswing, dont play for about a week, then promptly went on a 20 bi downswing, and then ive gotten another 12 bi upswing in the past few days, all at 25nl

standard i know but ive always been a low volume player and im trying to put in good volume lately, so the quick and drastic swings are still new for me

08-22-2010 , 01:51 AM

#6490

benjamin barker

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,716

i just stacked someone for 100bb on the literal LAST HAND of my session

i dont know if that has ever happened for me before

it felt GREAT

08-22-2010 , 02:11 AM

#6491

benjamin barker

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,716

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigacsiga

stars changed it. if you are dealt in you are getting VPPs. dont need to stay till hand ends.

bigacsiga -

are you certain?

on their website it says differently - http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/earn/

Quote:

IMPORTANT NOTE: In all cash ring games, points are credited at the end of a hand. So if you leave a table before the hand is completed, you may not receive the VPP for that hand. To ensure that you are properly credited, please ‘Sit Out’ until the start of the next hand, and then leave the table.

is their website just out of date?

08-22-2010 , 02:25 AM

#6492

skraper

Verified Coach NLHE

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Dan is my hero

08-22-2010 , 02:40 AM

#6493

bigacsiga

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benjamin barker

bigacsiga -

are you certain?

on their website it says differently - http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/earn/

is their website just out of date?

I am pretty sure, have read it in some thread also. Pretty easy to check btw. Just sit at one table wait till there is a raise and a call, and close table on flop. Refresh cashier in 3 minutes
I might test it later and let u know

08-22-2010 , 02:57 AM

#6494

VithelTone

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Downlading Entourage.

I hope is as good as everyone says it is.

08-22-2010 , 02:58 AM

#6495

skraper

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10,241

Quote:

Originally Posted by skraper

Dan is my hero

not for any legit reason

he's a noob but I cant help it

08-22-2010 , 02:58 AM

#6496

benjamin barker

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,716

bigacsiga yes plz do let me know if you test it

i would just email support and ask, but sometimes i get scared that when i email support that they doomswitch me for a while as a penalty for using up their resources

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hi skraper

you will be happy to know your hero is successfully transitioning from 'Fish on a Heater' to 'FPP Pro'

08-22-2010 , 03:06 AM

#6497

Insta-4Bet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by immadeadbird

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Absolute
SB ($31.27)
Hero ($35.17)
UTG ($18.65)
UTG+1 ($6.13)
CO ($26.43)
BTN ($26.72)

Dealt to Hero 3

UTG raises to $0.85, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

FLOP ($1.80) 3

Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $3, UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $20.30, UTG folds

Hero shows 3

Hero wins $16.93
lol i dont understand that. but good fold for him =]

What did you do to that man?

08-22-2010 , 03:29 AM

#6498

dcredskins24

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Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,056

spew?

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $44.04
SB: $6.05
BB: $80.50
UTG: $19.32
Hero (MP): $34.00
CO: $26.12

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with K

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.85, 1 fold, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) J

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BTN raises to $3.50, BB folds, Hero raises to $33.15 all in, BTN calls $29.65

Turn: ($68.95) A

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($68.95) 5

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:

08-22-2010 , 03:39 AM

#6499

aesthetics

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I hope everyone is having good luck at the poker tables tonight ^.^

08-22-2010 , 03:42 AM

#6500

aesthetics

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Dcred I like calling flop. You're IP and seems strong. Considering what he called with I don't like 3betting because you don't have much FE so you really are just hoping he has a worse fd which won't be very often.

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