** Official August uBBV Thread ** - Page 250 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

so like i said before, why would you ever fold in a close spot against a unknown villain ? You gain information on how villain plays at every showdown so i dont know why you acted like a dick when i posted this same question. Interested too here your thoughts because i dont agree with your opinion and i think you will level yourself into calling way too many bets.

08-20-2010 , 11:51 PM

#6228

Insta-4Bet

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eat **** mother ****er

Absolute, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $1.94
Hero (BTN): $2.27
SB: $0.48
BB: $1.33
UTG: $3.65

Pre-Flop: K

dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.09, SB folds, BB raises to $0.28, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.27 and is All-In, BB calls $1.05 and is All-In

Flop: ($2.69) 4

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($2.69) K

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($2.69) 4

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $2.69 Pot ($0.13 Rake)
Hero showed K A and WON $2.56 (+$1.23 NET)
BB showed A A and LOST (-$1.31 NET)

08-20-2010 , 11:53 PM

#6229

Dumuzi

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why ever play 2nl? cant u deposit 20 bucks or something and at least play 5nl?

08-20-2010 , 11:58 PM

#6230

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumuzi

why ever play 2nl? cant u deposit 20 bucks or something and at least play 5nl?

As a matter of fact I can't. I got my $58 rakeback on the 13th and have it up to $112 at the moment, once I hit $225 I'll be moving $200 to stars for 5NL. 2NL is fun, it feels good to win.

08-21-2010 , 12:00 AM

#6231

rushdonk

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Today was a bit of a rollercoaster.

08-21-2010 , 12:01 AM

#6232

Dumuzi

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stars has a $600 1st deposit bonus no? go for that imo.

08-21-2010 , 12:05 AM

#6233

aesthetics

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($43.30)
Hero ($64.65)
UTG ($46)
CO ($60.40)
BTN ($28.45)

Dealt to Hero A

fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.75, fold, Hero raises to $5.50, BTN calls $3.75

FLOP ($11.25) 2

Hero bets $5, BTN calls $5

TURN ($21.25) 2

Hero bets $54.15 (AI), BTN calls $17.95 (AI)

RIVER ($57.15) 2

BTN shows J

(Pre 13%, Flop 2.2%, Turn 4.5%)

Hero shows A

(Pre 87%, Flop 97.8%, Turn 95.5%)

BTN wins $54.30

die

08-21-2010 , 12:08 AM

#6234

Dumuzi

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have the eyelashes regrown yet?

08-21-2010 , 12:23 AM

#6235

aesthetics

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no, i'm pulling them out again, just under $200 below EV this session, story of my life when taking 50nl shots

08-21-2010 , 12:31 AM

#6236

aesthetics

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($50)
Hero ($53)
UTG ($36.15)
CO ($29.45)
BTN ($97)

Dealt to Hero K

fold, CO raises to $1, BTN calls $1, fold, Hero calls $0.50

FLOP ($3.25) K

Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

TURN ($3.25) K

Hero bets $3, CO raises to $12.25, BTN folds, Hero raises to $40, CO calls $16.20 (AI)

RIVER ($60.15) K

CO shows 7

(Pre 68%, Flop 8.4%, Turn 95.5%)

Hero shows K

(Pre 32%, Flop 91.6%, Turn 4.5%)

CO wins $57.15

sweating with viva... "nah im calling, he only reps pocket sevens"

08-21-2010 , 12:32 AM

#6237

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I'm glad to know that the guy in your old avatar wasn't you at least. I was feeling kind of bad laughing at your expense with the thought that you might really be an ugly midget.

08-21-2010 , 12:34 AM

#6238

Viva La Crayon

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Insta-4Bet

I'm glad to know that the guy in your old avatar wasn't you at least. I was feeling kind of bad laughing at your expense with the thought that you might really be an ugly midget.

Don't you feel bad about his current avatar?

08-21-2010 , 12:37 AM

#6239

aesthetics

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($72.90)
BB ($50)
UTG ($50)
Hero ($98.65)
BTN ($86.80)

Dealt to Hero K

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, SB raises to $5.50, fold, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $6.50

FLOP ($24.50) 5

SB bets $12, Hero raises to $86.65 (AI), SB calls $48.90 (AI)

TURN ($146) 5

RIVER ($146) 5

SB shows A

(Pre 81%, Flop 91.6%, Turn 95.5%)

Hero shows K

(Pre 19%, Flop 8.4%, Turn 4.5%)

SB wins $143

jesus this is so tilting....

-4 BI below EV and now this, **** off 50nl

08-21-2010 , 12:42 AM

#6240

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I usually scream "NIT!!!" in the chat box when this happens.

08-21-2010 , 12:53 AM

#6241

dcredskins24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by srooney3

why aren't pairs in his range? he doesn't have a T almost always when he bets like he does imo.

people just arent getting value that thin in these spots imo... they arent betting underpairs here for three streets imo

08-21-2010 , 01:32 AM

#6242

mg0698

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

saw this in ssnl

omg

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=67d_1176262365

ahhahahah

08-21-2010 , 01:38 AM

#6243

srooney3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dcredskins24

people just arent getting value that thin in these spots imo... they arent betting underpairs here for three streets imo

yeah yeah. i thought u meant like there werent any there on the turn. i agree with that

08-21-2010 , 01:41 AM

#6244

Krax

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

saw this in ssnl

omg

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=67d_1176262365

at least two of them are czechs (those two who yell at him), so I assume all of them are.

08-21-2010 , 01:42 AM

#6245

skraper

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@srooney

I think it depends on how close the decision is and the likelihood you will play enough hands with villain to make the read worthwhile.

In theory you should make all 0ev calls bc the information is worth money. But when the call is -ev it becomes very difficult (impossible?) to weigh the value of that information vs the loss of the call.

My 2cents

08-21-2010 , 01:56 AM

#6246

Krax

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Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $13.28
Hero (UTG): $25.45
MP: $28.93
CO: $24.30
BTN: $54.45
SB: $31.28

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A

Hero raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.85, 1 fold, BTN raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $7.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3.50

Flop: ($16.20) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($16.20) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $17.95 all in, BTN calls $17.95

21/17/inf/380 hands 3bet 7%

did I do anything fundamentally wrong? Check flop to let him jam his AK/ Im c/folding a lot in 4bet pots, so I wanted to check/call for once, he is reg after all. I guess c/c this turn is better than jamming, right?

08-21-2010 , 02:06 AM

#6247

skraper

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4b bigger

flop check is spew

How can you be c/fing a lot in 4bet pots? If they are flatting 4bets wide 4b way tighter. How can they know that you c/f in 4bet pots even if you do, they just dont happen often enough.

08-21-2010 , 02:09 AM

#6248

srooney3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skraper

yeah i didnt type all that but that was basically what i was assuming was understood.

my thought overall was that it still wasn't -ev, but if it was, i think it is literally so miniscule, the info i learn, no matter how small, should b worth it

08-21-2010 , 02:09 AM

#6249

Comstizzle

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how can u say check flop is spew without reads?

sometimes it's the most +EV play as alot of ppl will just jam their entire range in that spot

as played turn is much better to jam over c/c