** Official August uBBV Thread ** - Page 223 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

I honestly lol when i see people with high steals from the sb. It is one of the dumbest things you can ever do, steal against someone with a huge positional advantage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

Unless the bb is folding to a ridiculous amount to sb steals( not bb steals in general), and unless you think you have a significant post flop advantage(ie, bb is a 90 10 fish) it is very easy to deduce that stealing from the sb will be -ev.

i was probably stealing too much at 100nl from sb but below that it's pretty stupid not to do it imo. people fold a ton and then cf or fold to double barrels an insane amount post flop. i have been highly profitable when opening from sb v bb.

08-18-2010 , 01:52 AM

#5552

DaycareInferno

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Quote:

Originally Posted by subs

So I leave for the airport in 1.5 hours. 6am est flight. 8am pst arrival. Let's gooooooooooo. Also <3 that gooner is a ravens fan. I went to the first preseason game and had to argue with a crackhead for tickets. God damn inlove Baltimore. **** all the haters.

whats your plans there anyway?

08-18-2010 , 01:59 AM

#5553

srooney3

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hardest sport(s) out there - water polo is 1st swimming 2nd. that is all.

08-18-2010 , 02:04 AM

#5554

benjamin barker

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if you guys like that ray lewis video, you should check out the America's Game series. they have an episode on every super bowl winning team (and some other random good teams too). if you are an NFL fan its some of the best tv you will see.

08-18-2010 , 02:05 AM

#5555

subs

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Lunch, alcohol, pool, shower, dinner, gamble in the pit and get drunk, clubs, rinse and repeat

not too much specific planned besides bottle service at a newish club at hard rock (I think) on Thursday and Ditch Fridays at the palms friday (google for pics)

and the maybes: Wet republic at some point... I think studio 54 one night... Rain one night maybe... Probably XS on Sunday night

08-18-2010 , 02:07 AM

#5556

benjamin barker

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sharkbaitohhh -

we are still on for $100 on the durrrr vs jungleman challenge right? (i got durrrr at 1:1 to be up after the 50k)

do you want to escrow?

08-18-2010 , 02:10 AM

#5557

benjamin barker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by subs

sounds awesome

have fun!

08-18-2010 , 02:12 AM

#5558

aesthetics

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

Are you 3x or 4x ing it? Or villain dependent?

08-18-2010 , 02:15 AM

#5559

aesthetics

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Also I don't think the reason for 4xing should be primarily for extra FE because I don't think it achieves 25% more FE.

I think the point of 4xing is for when you are opening a tight range in order to get more money in the pot when you figure to be ahead (knowin you will be disadvantaged postflop). At least this is my understanding.

08-18-2010 , 02:16 AM

#5560

aesthetics

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Ps sorry for stratting in bbv

08-18-2010 , 02:17 AM

#5561

Brian J

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dint

Are you 3x or 4x ing it? Or villain dependent?

3x and sometimes 2.5x

08-18-2010 , 02:33 AM

#5562

Comstizzle

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4x is silly from the SB. only time i do it is when he's a high vpip BBvSB and i got a big hand. rest of the time 3x or 2.5x

08-18-2010 , 02:37 AM

#5563

kidacao

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subs ppppppppppplz we will be waiting for a sick TR

and pics ldo.

Spoiler:

08-18-2010 , 02:49 AM

#5564

Dumuzi

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i steal over half the time its folded to me in the sb. overall opponents fold pre ~60%, i win >50% it goes to the flop, and my won hand% is >75%.

instant profit?

08-18-2010 , 02:53 AM

#5565

absolutefish

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Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $10.47
Hero (UTG): $12.10
MP: $37.10
CO: $10.00
BTN: $4.80
SB: $18.88

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with Q

Hero raises to $0.30, MP raises to $1.10, 2 folds, SB calls $1.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.80, 1 fold, SB calls $2.70

Flop: ($8.80) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.70, SB raises to $8.40, Hero calls $5.60 all in

Turn: ($25.40) 3

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($25.40) A

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $25.40
Hero shows Q

(a pair of Queens)
SB shows 5

(two pair, Fives and Deuces)
SB wins $24.16
(Rake: $1.24)

Caught bluffing with my overpair again.

08-18-2010 , 03:00 AM

#5566

benjamin barker

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still lookin for prop bet updates from vitheltone and elusive

plz post your month to date graphs guys!

edit: if you are losing and dont want to post your graphs for vanity purposes that's ok, just PM me a link - im just trying to properly moderate this bet

Last edited by benjamin barker; 08-18-2010 at 03:15 AM.

08-18-2010 , 03:10 AM

#5567

Ksight3

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Just read all the sports discussion.

Let me guess. Wiz knows near if not nothing about soccer

08-18-2010 , 03:10 AM

#5568

fsn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dint

I was in a big rush to get to train and fkd my maths. Hung pretty much said what I'm trying to say.

I'd be happy to find a leak in my game but I'm not convinced.

The point is that the times you get called you have to be able to play those hands profitably postflop OOP. It's not enough that the preflop shows immediate profit. Shouldn't be a problem though as long as you know what hands to steal with e.g. what hands have good postflop value. ppl fold ridic often at micros.
ps. imo 3x is enough at < nl50 bc ppl fold ridic high % to steals and cbets

08-18-2010 , 03:14 AM

#5569

MDoranD

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what i got on this database since March

had to include the EV line just because its been 300k hands of not catching up to that biatch damn

08-18-2010 , 03:54 AM

#5570

Dumuzi

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very nice graph

08-18-2010 , 04:19 AM

#5571

Ksight3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MDoranD

what i got on this database since March

had to include the EV line just because its been 300k hands of not catching up to that biatch damn

You're doing it wrong

08-18-2010 , 05:13 AM

#5572

Insta-4Bet

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Is this too thin vs a 22/0? I had no clue he could c/c 3 streets with top set on the flop at the time of the hand.

Absolute, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $5.24
MP: $4.25
CO: $2.21
BTN: $1.24
SB: $3.95
Hero (BB): $5.10

Pre-Flop: Q

dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.06, SB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12) 3

(2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.10, SB calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.32) 5

(2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.21, SB calls $0.21

River: ($0.74) J

(2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.32, SB calls $0.32

Results: $1.38 Pot ($0.06 Rake)
SB showed 6 6 and WON $1.32 (+$0.64 NET)
Hero showed Q Q and LOST (-$0.67 NET)

08-18-2010 , 05:22 AM

#5573

immadeadbird

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Insta-4Bet

dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.06, SB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12) 3

(2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.10, SB calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.32) 5

(2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.21, SB calls $0.21

River: ($0.74) J

(2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.32, SB calls $0.32

Results: $1.38 Pot ($0.06 Rake)
SB showed 6 6 and WON $1.32 (+$0.64 NET)
Hero showed Q Q and LOST (-$0.67 NET)

you dont think a passive c/c ? thats all they do. they are passive. if they bet it is more sick.

well played you get value from 7s+. the turn is a pretty sick card really. i wouldnt be happy with that card at all. however im still betting it with Qs.

08-18-2010 , 05:23 AM

#5574

Swiiftx

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Seems fine.

08-18-2010 , 05:30 AM

#5575

immadeadbird

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FINALLY i has rakeback! and i am rolled for NL 25 again. the let stab continue part two of gonna get raped. gogogo 20 BI move up lets do this!

wish me luck lol or at lease stay BE for a while so i get some sick rakeback lolz

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