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eh, i dunno. when you're playing, you have a pretty good idea of what hands you got totally ****ed over in. i'm sure there's some way to make it into a halfway decent formula.

08-16-2010 , 01:56 PM

#5002

skraper

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adding up how many time you get totally F'ed over is a lot different than accurately calculating how you are running

08-16-2010 , 01:57 PM

#5003

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaycareInferno

eh, i dunno. when you're playing, you have a pretty good idea of what hands you got totally ****ed over in. i'm sure there's some way to make it into a halfway decent formula.

people are way to results oriented for this.

08-16-2010 , 01:58 PM

#5004

DaycareInferno

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well then i dont care how i'm running, i just want a ****over graph

08-16-2010 , 01:58 PM

#5005

DaycareInferno

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

people are way to results oriented for this.

thats true. a formula would do a better job.

08-16-2010 , 01:59 PM

#5006

chet22r

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Feel like I am in a nightmare. Just got attacked by the slowrollers. 200 hands and lose 3 bi's. Twice got timebanked on KK<AA and QQ<KK. 3 bet a 80/45/10 with AKcc flop 334cc pots 5 with them having 10$ behind. Figure check/raise allin. Guy clicks call when his timebank hits 1 and turns over 32o.
Time to break something before I play again.

08-16-2010 , 02:00 PM

#5007

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

dont try to justify being up 75bi in equity lifetime.

wouldnt be surprised if im up way more than that... 75 buyins over EV doesnt really seem that big over a million+ hand sample especially since i was an extreme nit over most of that sample

08-16-2010 , 02:02 PM

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Swiiftx

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There should be a committe of good players that decide EV calculations. I'd be in it ofc.

08-16-2010 , 02:04 PM

#5009

VithelTone

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****...this is not gonna show in my EV graph...

IPoker Network $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $36.93
Hero (BTN): $108.12
SB: $52.50
BB: $16.75
UTG: $81.99

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 8

2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.50) 5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.62, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $16.12, SB raises to $26.24, Hero raises to $106.62, SB calls $24.76 all in

Turn: ($105.50) 3

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($105.50) 9

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $105.50
SB shows A

Hero wins $55.62
SB wins $102.50
(Rake: $-52.62)

08-16-2010 , 02:04 PM

#5010

Stackajawea

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sometimes you just pray that you're not shoving into top set...

The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $52.25
CO: $41.20
BTN: $63.15
Hero (SB): $75.85
BB: $211.55
UTG: $140.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with K

4 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $14.75, BB calls $9.75

Flop: ($29.50) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $13.75, BB calls $13.75

Turn: ($57.00) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $47.35 all in, BB calls $47.35

River: ($151.70) 4

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $151.70
Hero shows K

(a pair of Kings)
BB shows A

(a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $148.70
(Rake: $3.00)

08-16-2010 , 02:05 PM

#5011

DaycareInferno

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all i'm sayin is that if you have a bunch of hands that are like, you have 8

on J

and are betting huge into some huge drooler and the board runs out 9

and he donk shoves into you after you've put in a ****load of money, there should be some way to make a note of that on a graph.

08-16-2010 , 02:06 PM

#5012

VithelTone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by subs

wouldnt be surprised if im up way more than that... 75 buyins over EV doesnt really seem that big over a million+ hand sample especially since i was an extreme nit over most of that sample

It wont turn you into a losing player, but can easily cut your winnings in half.

08-16-2010 , 02:07 PM

#5013

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiiftx

There should be a committe of good players that decide EV calculations. I'd be in it ofc.

but you said good players

08-16-2010 , 02:08 PM

#5014

Swiiftx

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Don't make me whip out my 50NL graph. Please don't...

08-16-2010 , 02:10 PM

#5015

TheWizardOfOddz

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lol

08-16-2010 , 02:22 PM

#5016

Megloooo

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pop quiz

whats the most outs you can ever have on the flop?

08-16-2010 , 02:24 PM

#5017

VithelTone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Megloooo

pop quiz

whats the most outs you can ever have on the flop?

46

If you are talking about me specifically...about 4 or 5 at best

08-16-2010 , 02:26 PM

#5018

Megloooo

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now now lets not get silly

08-16-2010 , 02:29 PM

#5019

DaycareInferno

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21?

08-16-2010 , 02:29 PM

#5020

skraper

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23 i think

08-16-2010 , 02:30 PM

#5021

DaycareInferno

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also, you cant just say pop quiz. you have to say pop quiz hotshot, or pop quiz *******

08-16-2010 , 02:30 PM

#5022

aesthetics

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($28.31)
BB ($25.35)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($24.33)
Hero ($25.35)
BTN ($25.65)

Dealt to Hero 3

fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.75

FLOP ($2.35) K

UTG+1 bets $2.35, Hero folds

UTG+1 shows T

UTG+1 wins $2.24

fish says:

08-16-2010 , 02:30 PM

#5023

lumileijona

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JTss v 2c2d on 9s8s8x 3x 9, 3x J 3x T 9xspade and 6x straight=24 outs

08-16-2010 , 02:31 PM

#5024

skraper

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OESFD with 2 live pairs + a counterfeiting board 2 pr

villain has 22, we have 9Thh on 778hh

3 9s
3 Ts
3 8s
3 6s
3 Js
9 hearts
=

24

08-16-2010 , 02:32 PM

#5025

skraper

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lumile beat me to it

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