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Does anyone every take passive lines like this vs. regs? I've been experimenting with it, but still am not sure if I like it, and whether it'd be better to just to bet, bet and c/c.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $48.66
SB: $15.40
BB: $22.33
UTG: $17.87
Hero (MP): $26.00
CO: $26.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with J

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.05) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.05) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($13.05) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10

Final Pot: $33.05
Hero shows J

(a pair of Jacks)
CO shows A

(Ace King high)
Hero wins $31.40
(Rake: $1.65)

08-02-2010 , 05:58 PM

#477

lumileijona

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You can take passive lines like this if you are playing a barrel monkey who auto 3 barrels when checked to

Like me

08-02-2010 , 05:59 PM

#478

subs

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you are gonna get yourself in some awful spots taking lines like that especially on a board like that with your hand... better off just barreling yourself

08-02-2010 , 06:04 PM

#479

Decon50

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i guess i'm supposed to fold here? CO is 26/17 & 0.9 AF over smalll sample.

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $44.50
BB: $50.00
UTG: $58.65
Hero (MP): $56.00
CO: $87.80
BTN: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with A

1 fold, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, CO calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $8, CO calls $8

River: ($27.75) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO raises to $74.30 all in, Hero folds

08-02-2010 , 06:06 PM

#480

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheryltweedy

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.05) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.05) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($13.05) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10

Final Pot: $33.05
Hero shows J

(a pair of Jacks)
CO shows A

(Ace King high)
Hero wins $31.40
(Rake: $1.65)

this is a terrible line against everyone

08-02-2010 , 06:08 PM

#481

lumileijona

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4 11.50 shove IMO.

As played I still b/f bigger on the river. Now I will always wonder whether he turned missed FD into a bluff and spazzcall. (he prob didn't, good fold)

08-02-2010 , 06:08 PM

#482

lumileijona

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

this is a terrible line against everyone

It's the perfect line against you prob.

08-02-2010 , 06:09 PM

#483

RBlagojevich

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,905

I continue to get murdered today. Did i make a good fold here? Villain is 23/16 and tends toward passivity postflop.

looking back at it i feel like the river bet is too small, and i'm afraid I tempted him to shove with AK...

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UTG: $27.15
CO: $25.00
Hero (BTN): $26.44
SB: $25.00
BB: $28.43

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 5

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) K

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, SB folds, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) 4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50

River: ($12.25) 4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.25, BB raises to $22.68 all in, Hero folds

08-02-2010 , 06:10 PM

#484

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumileijona

It's the perfect line against you prob.

lol you have never played a hand with me so gtfo

08-02-2010 , 06:16 PM

#485

lumileijona

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Don't be rude. You have posted a lot of hands here so obv I have some idea that you like to barrel a lot.

Edit: I don't remember any flaming going on here before Wizard showed up and now there is flaming going on even when Wizard is not involved. Just one person is enough to change the culture of a forum. Mods just ban him before this place becomes unbearable and we have to migrate to the brew (You won't like all of us posting there would you?)

08-02-2010 , 06:17 PM

#486

Hurley

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First ever 5000 hand day, first 4500 were horrible and down almost 5 buyins, good thing i won 7 buyins in the last 500 hands, plus 2.5buy ins in rakeback

My favourite hand from the day, check the 20bb rake

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MP: $15.23
CO: $7.35
BTN: $8.93
Hero (SB): $31.29
BB: $12.09
UTG: $22.35

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with A

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.40, MP calls $0.40, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.70) T

(3 players)
Hero bets $1.25, UTG calls $1.25, MP folds

Turn: ($4.20) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, UTG raises to $5, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($14.20) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $24.54 all in, UTG calls $15.60 all in

Spoiler:

08-02-2010 , 06:18 PM

#487

cheryltweedy

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Makin 'dem foldz.

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SB: $28.14
BB: $29.92
Hero (CO): $36.45
BTN: $26.02

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with J

Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) J

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($4.80) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.50, BB calls $4.50

River: ($13.80) A

(2 players)
BB bets $13.80, Hero folds

Final Pot: $13.80
BB wins $13.11
(Rake: $0.69)

08-02-2010 , 06:19 PM

#488

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumileijona

Don't be rude. You have posted a lot of hands here so obv I have some idea that you like to barrel a lot.

Even if i was a barreling monkey, check calling 3 streets with 2nd pair mid kicker is terrible. I am also going to stop posting strategy posts in the micro limit forum so i wont tell you why this is bad and i hope you can figure it out by yourself.

08-02-2010 , 06:21 PM

#489

cheryltweedy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

Even if i was a barreling monkey, check calling 3 streets with 2nd pair mid kicker is terrible

That wasn't his point, but never mind, it was a light hearted joke which you seem to have taken personally? :/

08-02-2010 , 06:24 PM

#490

subs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumileijona

Mods just ban him before this place becomes unbearable and we have to migrate to the brew (You won't like all of us posting there would you?)

lol wut

08-02-2010 , 06:26 PM

#491

gateswi

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no need for mod intervention, its not like the guy is really doing anything more than stirring the pot. woo will either find his niche and stay, or he'll fade away like all of the true flamers/trolls

08-02-2010 , 06:27 PM

#492

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumileijona

Edit: I don't remember any flaming going on here before Wizard showed up and now there is flaming going on even when Wizard is not involved. Just one person is enough to change the culture of a forum. Mods just ban him before this place becomes unbearable and we have to migrate to the brew (You won't like all of us posting there would you?)

08-02-2010 , 06:27 PM

#493

gateswi

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You raise OTB w/ KQhh, 2 fish call in blinds. 1 has 70bb, 1 has 100bb. Flop is J98hhh. 70bb fish donks 1/2 pot, BB raises 2.5x (not a minraise), whats our highest EV action?

08-02-2010 , 06:29 PM

#494

Megloooo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gateswi

You raise OTB w/ KQhh, 2 fish call in blinds. 1 has 70bb, 1 has 100bb. Flop is J98hhh. 70bb fish donks 1/2 pot, BB raises 2.5x (not a minraise), whats our highest EV action?

cib/flat id guess

08-02-2010 , 06:32 PM

#495

lumileijona

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http://groups.google.fi/group/alt.fa...%C3%A4st%C3%A4

08-02-2010 , 06:36 PM

#496

gateswi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumileijona

http://groups.google.fi/group/alt.fa...%C3%A4st%C3%A4

08-02-2010 , 06:37 PM

#497

VithelTone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gateswi

You raise OTB w/ KQhh, 2 fish call in blinds. 1 has 70bb, 1 has 100bb. Flop is J98hhh. 70bb fish donks 1/2 pot, BB raises 2.5x (not a minraise), whats our highest EV action?

I would call