** Official August uBBV Thread ** - Page 188 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

the problem with poker is that there is no real way of knowing if you are a winner or not. You have to be honest with yourself, if you constantly call river bets when you know you are beat, even though villain called 3 streets with a gut shot and hit on the river, you know when villain shoves river your tptk is never good, yet you still call and tell people how bad you run. I am not saying this is what you do, just a example of what people who " run bad" do sometimes.

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08-15-2010 , 01:33 PM

#4677

Spraggy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

the problem with poker is that there is no real way of knowing if you are a winner or not. You have to be honest with yourself, if you constantly call river bets when you know you are beat, even though villain called 3 streets with a gut shot and hit on the river, you know when villain shoves river your tptk is never good(just an example), yet you still call and tell people how bad you run . I am not saying this is what you do, just a example of what people who " run bad" do sometimes.

A very good point. I'm pretty sure I have run badly in all of my downswings at 25nl but like you say I may be delusional. Do you do sweats or hh reviews? Perhaps you could look over all my losing hands for me or something?

08-15-2010 , 01:33 PM

#4678

GOONERCAM

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inb4

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08-15-2010 , 01:37 PM

#4679

TheWizardOfOddz

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tbh i feel like quiting cash games and just do mtts at night or something because i feel really burnt out with poker. If this is what i decide to do, i probably will give free sweats and hh reviews.

08-15-2010 , 01:38 PM

#4680

Swiiftx

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inb4 busto.

08-15-2010 , 01:39 PM

#4681

Insta-4Bet

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me first plz

Last edited by Insta-4Bet; 08-15-2010 at 01:57 PM.

08-15-2010 , 01:53 PM

#4682

Brian J

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

tbh i feel like quiting cash games and just do mtts at night or something because i feel really burnt out with poker. If this is what i decide to do, i probably will give free sweats and hh reviews.

you're still running ok right? just burned out as in bored? i get that way sometimes.

tbh online poker has taken a bit of the shine off the game for me. when playing live i lived somewhere that the nearest casino was like 5 hours away so when i played it was a treat. and every hand and situation felt new. now i feel like i have seen every possible spot and you really start to realize just how much variance there is. i really had no idea when i was a recreational live player. poker players all like to think they are in control, after all its the only game you don't play the house. variance robs you of that feeling of control. you don't really learn about the variance until you play online

Last edited by Brian J; 08-15-2010 at 02:00 PM.

08-15-2010 , 01:57 PM

#4683

Mr. Perfect

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Quote:

Originally Posted by behhh04

LIES!

Everyone knows that nl10 is the blackhole of microstakes poker. No one actually wins money there.

Haha just wait till I get to 25nl again so I can run absolutely terrible.

My plan is to build a 1000 Br then move to 25nl. I want to be 40x rolled cause those ridiculously dumb ass downswings happen to me alot there..sighh

Then hopefully build to 2k then 50nl where all he donks are

By October 1st people!

Pray for me like a rosaraaay

08-15-2010 , 01:59 PM

#4684

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

i am still running good, just never feel like playing and when i do i get bored in 10min and then quit.

08-15-2010 , 02:02 PM

#4685

Brian J

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well given that you've been one of the more active posters lately and came out of nowhere just a couple of months ago you probably just need a break

Edit: i have also noticed that i get the feeling of boredom and not wanting to play when i am winning and never when i am down swinging

08-15-2010 , 02:04 PM

#4686

Mr. Perfect

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

+1...

Either you lose the confidence and have to psych yourself back up by being

or

Learn the art of Zen

I think stheif in a vid talks about how if there was no varience there would be no poker at all because donkeys like to win too...and we should be thankfull for it etc etc. But I choose to take the non enlightened approach when getting rocked by droolers over and over again

08-15-2010 , 02:10 PM

#4687

subs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EATITPAL

I know its like a pretty strong line. I levelled myself to think villain had AQ and i would expect him to fold that, but i was tilted at the time, and i know he has 7x so fold the flop is my line obviously. Also i wouldnt even play QQ like that, i would raise the flop because he always has 7x

like i said... people arent even gonna lead 3 times there and fold AQ... its an awful spot to bluff

08-15-2010 , 02:14 PM

#4688

lumileijona

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spraggy

I'll tell you something for free. If we raise flop and bomb turn and river. Most regs will fold a weak 7x. I know I will. I know others will.

If we raise turn and jam river this deep. Most regs will fold a weak 7x. I know I will. I know others will.

25nl regs aren't braindead.

I won't ever. To George's line I would though.

08-15-2010 , 02:19 PM

#4689

GOONERCAM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

i am still running good, just never feel like playing and when i do i get bored in 10min and then quit.

for real MTT's are the tits when you get like this. the idea of winning big from small is so much more appealing when you've spent so long in the mindset of grinding and trying to win 'buy ins'.

alternatively, you could try fcuking around with a new game, i always find that boosts my enthusiasm.

08-15-2010 , 02:23 PM

#4690

Brian J

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yeah, mixing in some plo is good though i often feel like i am going to have an Aneurysm after a session because of all the additional things you have to think about in every spot

08-15-2010 , 02:23 PM

#4691

Insta-4Bet

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easy game

Absolute, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $2.06
BB: $2
UTG: $8.70
CO: $1
BTN: $1.12

CO posts $0.01
Pre-Flop: T

dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.01, BTN calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.10) T

(5 Players)
Hero bets $0.12, BB raises to $0.26, 4 folds

Results: $0.34 Pot ($0.01 Rake)
BB showed and WON $0.33 (+$0.21 NET)

08-15-2010 , 02:24 PM

#4692

Brian J

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wtf

i iso 100% with that hand

08-15-2010 , 02:27 PM

#4693

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

yeah, mixing in some plo is good though i often feel like i am going to have an Aneurysm after a session because of all the additional things you have to think about in every spot

plo is not a good game for me because i cant understand how people fold pre flop.

08-15-2010 , 02:28 PM

#4694

Insta-4Bet

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far more +EV to just complete imo. There isn't any fe preflop.

08-15-2010 , 02:33 PM

#4695

GOONERCAM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

plo is not a good game for me because i cant understand how people fold pre flop.

not a level here. learn backgammon. brilliant game

08-15-2010 , 02:35 PM

#4696

Brian J

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

plo is not a good game for me because i cant understand how people fold pre flop.

i noticed that

08-15-2010 , 02:40 PM

#4697

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

i noticed that

you have FOUR cards instead of two, how can you possibly fold pre flop ? So much more possibilities imo.

08-15-2010 , 02:41 PM

#4698

whodatninja

old hand

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

tbh i feel like quiting cash games and just do mtts at night or something because i feel really burnt out with poker. If this is what i decide to do, i probably will give free sweats and hh reviews.

i was thinking of playing sngs for a while too, but FTP doesn't seem to have the 45man turbos like PokerStars had (not that i looked long).

08-15-2010 , 02:41 PM

#4699

z0mgtiltz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Insta-4Bet

easy game

Absolute, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $2.06
BB: $2
UTG: $8.70
CO: $1
BTN: $1.12

CO posts $0.01
Pre-Flop: T

dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.01, BTN calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.10) T

(5 Players)
Hero bets $0.12, BB raises to $0.26, 4 folds

Results: $0.34 Pot ($0.01 Rake)
BB showed and WON $0.33 (+$0.21 NET)

Preflop and flop just have me going w t f...