3betting tens or jacks in or out of position is such a losing play, I'd like to see somebody show where they are winning winning when they 3b JJ or TT and get flatted or re-raised by a 100bb+ villain.


Maybe if I had any postflop skill with these hands...



Absolute, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $9.20
Hero (BB): $10.05
UTG: $5.85
CO: $10
BTN: $4.35

UTG posts $0.15
Pre-Flop: J J dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG checks, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, Hero raises to $1.60, 2 folds, SB calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.75) 6 K Q (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.75) 9 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.75) K (2 Players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

Results: $9.75 Pot ($0.48 Rake)
SB showed Q 9 and WON $9.27 (+$4.72 NET)
Hero showed J J and LOST (-$4.50 NET)

Yup, cheryltweedy2p2.

i would rather take this line with a hand that at least had some sort of equity... also i dont really like the villain you chose to do this against

With 31% equity calling here is slightly better than folding, right?


Absolute, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $6.96
BTN: $33.17
SB: $10
BB: $10
Hero (UTG): $12.80
MP: $4.70

Pre-Flop: 9 T dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.20) 8 J 4 (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.20) 5 (3 Players)
Hero bets $0.85, MP raises to $4.35 and is All-In, BTN folds, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($9.90) 6 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $9.90 Pot ($0.49 Rake)
Hero showed 9 T and LOST (-$4.70 NET)
MP showed 4 5 and WON $9.41 (+$4.71 NET)

re: bluff c/r'ing flops with small pocket pairs

its VERY hard to pull off profitable bluffs with 0 equity when called. having 10-20% equity makes a big difference. having KQ on a T35 would be much better to c/r than 22.

why are you raising 9Ts utg if you are gonna check a 48J flop?

randomly clicking buttons ftw

I almost cbet, but then i was like "meh 3-handed"

I click buttons gud



oh god, oooo noooo, i play bad. only 7bb to flat pre and I thought it was ok being deeper.




this reg takes me too school




Absolute, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $35.26
SB: $10
BB: $5.04
Hero (UTG): $24.77
CO: $17.73

Pre-Flop: 8 8 dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $0.35, CO raises to $1.05, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.25) 7 2 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.65) Q (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($4.65) 2 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.90, Hero calls $2.90

Results: $10.45 Pot ($0.52 Rake)
Hero showed 8 8 and LOST (-$5.15 NET)
CO showed K K and WON $9.93 (+$4.78 NET)

dont bet the turn

why wouldnt u bet the turn?

betting turn > check/calling


At least I think it is. I can't win with T high if I don't bet.

you dont have fold equity , check turn or bet flopand bet turn. (fold pre is even better)

edit: if u bet turn then you will have to bluff a lot of rivers and that is just bad specially on 2nl

This is distorted in a few spots to make your case seem better.
1st, the flop was K96cc, which adds combos of 78 to your range.
2nd, the turn was not an 8, it was an offsuit 4, which diminishes your equity/outs by a pretty sizable margin.
3rd, u didn't CRAI ott, u left almost 40bb's behind, over 1/3rd of your stack.


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em $0.02 Ante - 6 players
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SB: $19.85
BB: $11.46
UTG: $26.05
MP: $24.27
Hero (CO): $33.38
BTN: $9.63

Pre Flop: ($0.27) Hero is CO with T K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) K 6 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80

Turn: ($2.57) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.60, BB raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $11.40, BB calls $3.74 all in

River: ($23.05) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $23.05
BB shows T J (high card King)
Hero shows T K (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins $21.91
(Rake: $1.14)

I didn't say u rep "only" draws, but I felt theres more draws that u r raising here, trying to get me to fold the type of hand that I had or something like JJ/TT. The only sets in your range otf are 6's or 9's, as u would've 3b KK p/f most likely. Why would u slowplay a set on this flop? I could easily have TPTK, TP2K, (N)FD's in my range. And if I have air, I'm giving up ott a lot of the time anyway when u call.
Not saying that this was the clearcut optimal play in a vaccuum, especially against "the standard" NL10 loose passive (baluga), but you're not some non-reg loose-passive fish who only takes this line w/ the nuts.
In fact, I'd argue that u made a good play here, but I didn't see much value in your range, and fortunately for me I was on your level in this specific hand and I kinda just soulread u for a draw.
If someone is good w/ stoving ranges and such, that would be cool, b/c I cant do that too well.
I'm prepared to get flamed for it ITT, but I had a read on u and I went with it. Hence, the 3bAI for your last ~40bb's. NH, GL.

Pretty epic session. 12 Tabling fries the brain:

The good:

Hand #1
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $22.51
CO: $21.11
Hero (BTN): $34.70
SB: $4.70
BB: $12.15
UTG: $24.45

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with 9 9
UTG raises to $0.57, MP calls $0.57, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.57, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.01) 9 K 9 (3 players)
UTG bets $1.50, MP folds, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.01) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.01) K (2 players)
UTG bets $4.00, Hero raises to $32.63, UTG calls $18.38 all in

Final Pot: $49.77
Hero shows 9 9
UTG shows J K
Hero wins $37.07
(Rake: $2.45)

Hand #2
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (MP): $20.00
CO: $22.32
BTN: $23.57
SB: $36.91
BB: $20.80
UTG: $20.00

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is MP with 7 7
UTG raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.20) 7 2 9 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60, BB raises to $4.40, UTG raises to $19.30, Hero calls $17.70, BB calls $14.90

Turn: ($60.10) 8 (3 players)

River: ($60.10) 3 (3 players)

Final Pot: $60.10
Hero shows 7 7
BB shows 2 2
UTG shows Q Q
Hero wins $57.10
(Rake: $3.00)

Hand #3
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $3.30
BB: $34.49
Hero (UTG): $60.46
MP: $21.36
CO: $2.71
BTN: $5.62

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is UTG with Q K
Hero raises to $0.70, MP calls $0.70, CO calls $0.70, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.40) T 7 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $1.80, MP raises to $4.60, CO calls $2.01 all in, Hero raises to $59.76, MP calls $16.06 all in

Turn: ($45.73) 2 (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($45.73) T (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $45.73
Hero shows Q K
MP shows 8 8
CO shows T 3
Hero wins $8.03
(Rake: $2.25)

Hand #4
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (MP): $18.80
CO: $27.95
BTN: $20.00
SB: $7.70
BB: $32.33
UTG: $24.57

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is MP with 4 4
UTG calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10) 3 4 6 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.57, UTG raises to $4.14, Hero raises to $17.90, UTG calls $13.76

Turn: ($37.90) K (2 players)

River: ($37.90) A (2 players)

Final Pot: $37.90
Hero shows 4 4
UTG shows 3 3
Hero wins $36.05
(Rake: $1.85)

Hand #5
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $38.02
Hero (BTN): $19.70
SB: $20.43
BB: $25.30
UTG: $20.00
MP: $20.34

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN with 7 7
1 fold, MP raises to $0.70, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.70, SB calls $0.60, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.30) 7 T 5 (3 players)
SB bets $2.30, MP raises to $5.75, Hero raises to $19, SB folds, MP calls $13.25

Turn: ($42.60) K (2 players)

River: ($42.60) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: $42.60
Hero shows 7 7
MP shows J J
Hero wins $40.50
(Rake: $2.10)

Hand #6
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $16.07
CO: $21.60
BTN: $20.00
SB: $32.54
Hero (BB): $20.00
UTG: $21.19

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with 7 7
1 fold, MP calls $0.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.10, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.80) 7 T 6 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, MP folds, BTN raises to $2.10, SB folds, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.00) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.80, Hero raises to $17.70, BTN calls $13.90

River: ($40.40) 2 (2 players)

Final Pot: $40.40
BTN shows 6 7
Hero shows 7 7
Hero wins $38.40
(Rake: $2.00)

Hand #7
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $13.43
BB: $28.60
UTG: $21.63
MP: $12.59
Hero (CO): $36.73
BTN: $12.81

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is CO with K K
1 fold, MP calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.90, 3 folds, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10) A 5 J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.20, MP calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.50) 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.50) K (2 players)
MP bets $2.25, Hero raises to $34.63, MP calls $8.24 all in

Final Pot: $25.48
MP shows K T
Hero shows K K
Hero wins $24.23
(Rake: $1.25)

The bad:

Hand #8
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): $23.78
MP: $31.65
CO: $23.46
BTN: $38.63
SB: $22.95
BB: $22.92

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.70, MP raises to $2.40, 4 folds, Hero raises to $5.30, MP calls $2.90

Flop: ($10.90) 8 7 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.80, MP raises to $26.35, Hero calls $13.68 all in

Turn: ($47.86) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($47.86) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $47.86
Hero shows K K
MP shows Q A
MP wins $45.51
(Rake: $2.35)

Hand #9
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (BB): $20.96
UTG: $20.82
MP: $37.96
CO: $20.53
BTN: $40.48
SB: $5.66

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB with A A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.70, 2 folds, SB calls $0.60, Hero raises to $2.80, MP calls $2.10, SB raises to $5.66, Hero calls $2.86, MP calls $2.86

Flop: ($16.98) 9 7 9 (3 players)
Hero bets $15.30, MP calls $15.30

Turn: ($47.58) 6 (3 players)

River: ($47.58) K (3 players)

Final Pot: $47.58
Hero shows A A
MP shows J 9
SB shows Q K
MP wins $16.18
(Rake: $2.35)

Hand #10
Entraction $20.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $35.47
SB: $12.29
BB: $22.87
UTG: $21.31
Hero (CO): $20.82

Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is CO with Q A
UTG raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.70) A Q 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.80, Hero raises to $3.27, UTG calls $2.47

Turn: ($8.24) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.60, UTG raises to $11.20, Hero raises to $16.85, UTG calls $5.65

River: ($41.94) K (2 players)

Final Pot: $41.94
UTG shows 5 5
Hero shows Q A
UTG wins $39.89
(Rake: $2.05)

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($25.68)
BB ($25)
UTG ($29.26)
Hero ($39.07)
BTN ($51.76)

Dealt to Hero 9 9

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2.60, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.85

FLOP ($5.55) 2 7 6

Hero checks, BTN bets $5.55, Hero calls $5.55

TURN ($16.65) 2 7 6 8

Hero checks, BTN bets $16.65, Hero calls $16.65

RIVER ($49.95) 2 7 6 8 5

Hero checks, BTN bets $26.96 (AI), Hero calls $14.27 (AI)

Hero shows 9 9
(Pre 55%, Flop 72.4%, Turn 68.2%)

BTN shows K A
(Pre 45%, Flop 27.6%, Turn 31.8%)

BTN wins $75.49

uuuugggghhhhhhhh so frustating my read was correct but he sucked out on river >< im sure he is jamming without a spade too

edit: my read being he bets pot when he wants a fold and 1/2->3/4 for value

River looks 1/2 -> 3/4 to me, so fold.

lol

i should have crai turn to get value from 2 overs with a spade

fold river he should have alot of spades in his range betting turn

tbh i don't like turn c/c but i'm not sure how i play it different

given ur read i think turn jam is better, he should have this type of hand everytime

comtizzle if i crai turn it's fine right?

because he isnt folding As/Qs/Ks now

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and yeah i hated river, it probably is a fold, I'm not entirely sure if he checks back his overs without a spade, I would imagine he ships them once he's gone this far with the bluff and it's a great bluff card

given ur read yeh, might be good also if he can fold an overpair without a spade also

with stack sizes i don't like c/c turn either jam or fold.

brag

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thought this was bull**** until i saw this

u staking the whole ubbv to play 200NL amirite

NomeansNo would probably still play 2nl even if this windfall was legit.

I'll be staking myself to crush PA, PI and Durr.

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