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08-08-2010 , 03:00 PM

#2551

TheWizardOfOddz

banned

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,180

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumuzi

small pocket pairs are unprofitable to play utg for 99.999999% of players¹

_{1. midgets excluded}

I am in the .000001% ldo

08-08-2010 , 03:11 PM

#2552

Mark89er

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,223

im gonna organise one of those days fsn, from belfast to scotland or something, ahaha, looks ****ing awesome fun sir!!!!

08-08-2010 , 03:16 PM

#2553

Matjes

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 512

shipped $10.75 in an ohama freeroll for 4th place, weee

08-08-2010 , 03:22 PM

#2554

GOONERCAM

Resident Rollbuster

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,994

08-08-2010 , 03:39 PM

#2555

MDoranD

MDaddyD

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,288

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

people are soooooo bad at 25nl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

very weak tight regulars who can't stand to be punched in the mouth. really bad fish

I just dont think these are wise statements to make right now when youve been struggling so immensely at 50nl+. What do you think the regs at 50nl+ would say about regs that are on 60 buyin downswings? Im really not trying to be mean here but i just dont understand this line at all.

08-08-2010 , 03:40 PM

#2556

Brian J

TOTP Master

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,650

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDoranD

all except you of course

i played up through these stakes u know

08-08-2010 , 03:41 PM

#2557

Mark89er

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,223

super sick spot imo, vrs a big ****ing whale, I bet so big on the turn, coz i thought he had a fd or ax, maybe set (unlikely given pre + board), or 2pr...when he rr's me, i know we have a set bla bla bla, do we call or jam?

MicroGaming - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $33.88
BB: $21.29
UTG: $30.17
MP: $17.20
CO: $23.11
BTN: $75.22

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has 5

fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.10, BB raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.40, 3 players) A

Hero checks, BB bets $1.20, BTN calls $1.20, Hero raises to $3.80, fold, BTN calls $2.60

Turn: ($11.20, 2 players) Q

Hero bets $9.00, BTN raises to $18.00

edit, no hud, having issues, and didnt see how he built he stack up, been on table 10mins, he seemed loose and passive

Last edited by Mark89er; 08-08-2010 at 03:47 PM.

08-08-2010 , 03:43 PM

#2558

subs

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,731

i remember saying in bbv a while ago that i thought you were just on a pretty big heater based on the hands you were posting in here when you were moving up to 50nl and 100nl

08-08-2010 , 03:46 PM

#2559

MDoranD

MDaddyD

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,288

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

all except you of course

i played up through these stakes u know

I know you did, and i really wasnt referring to myself. I guess recently ive rediscovered that some regs are better than you at poker, some are worse. Either way the difference in skill level between the regs is pretty small when compared to the difference in skill between a reg and a fish... and thats the edge we should be trying to exploit at these stakes to make the most money.

08-08-2010 , 03:50 PM

#2560

Mark89er

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MDoranD

I know you did, and i really wasnt referring to myself. I guess recently ive discovered that some regs are better than you at poker, some are worse. Either way the difference in skill level between the regs is pretty small when compared to the difference in skill between a reg and a fish... and thats the edge we should be trying to exploit at these stakes to make the most money.

bingo, too much reg on reg action these days in the micros, esp nl10, i really dont understand it..****ing pricks imo

08-08-2010 , 03:51 PM

#2561

EATITPAL

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,047

Mark, all in mate.

08-08-2010 , 03:53 PM

#2562

Brian J

TOTP Master

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subs thats why i give wizard grief, cause you gave me grief...

i am obviously on my true trajectory even though at 24bi below ev during this. i have not been on a 60bi downswing though, just being dramatic and ignoring an upswing in there. It's about 40. still sucks

my read of 25NL stands. lot of over aggro people. lots of regs don't know why they are 3b and then don't know what to do after the flop.

08-08-2010 , 03:57 PM

#2563

Brian J

TOTP Master

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,650

wizard this tourney is boring as shet when you can't get a hand...

have not had a single PP > 88 since the JJ early on

08-08-2010 , 03:58 PM

#2564

TheWizardOfOddz

banned

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,180

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

wizard this tourney is boring as shet when you can't get a hand...

i know right,

brag i have more chips then you (220+)

08-08-2010 , 03:59 PM

#2565

Brian J

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shove or fold time!

08-08-2010 , 04:04 PM

#2566

fattony7891

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

Standard right

Full Tilt Poker FTOPS Event #11 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+1: t4990 249.50 BBs
MP1: t5790 289.50 BBs
MP2: t5340 267 BBs
CO: t3820 191 BBs
Hero (BTN): t5050 252.50 BBs
SB: t4980 249 BBs
BB: t5180 259 BBs
UTG: t4850 242.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN with A

UTG calls t20, 4 folds, Hero raises to t90, 2 folds, UTG raises to t275, Hero calls t185

Flop: (t580) A

(2 players)
UTG bets t275, Hero calls t275

Turn: (t1130) 8

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t600,

Seems like an easy bet/fold. Dunno why you guys want to check.

08-08-2010 , 04:05 PM

#2567

Brian J

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

shove or fold time!

out

08-08-2010 , 04:12 PM

#2568

subs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fattony7891

Seems like an easy bet/fold. Dunno why you guys want to check.

i feel like his c/r range is waaaaay bigger than his c/call range... betting the turn we are really only targeting TT and KK or i guess maybe he plays KQs like this? who knows... either way we are only getting 1 street out of hands we beat most of the time and im really not too worried about any river cards

08-08-2010 , 04:13 PM

#2569

Dumuzi

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3,621

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDoranD

...Either way the difference in skill level between the regs is pretty small when compared to the difference in skill between a reg and a fish... and thats the edge we should be trying to exploit at these stakes to make the most money.

biggest pots won of the month

vpip/pfr - hh
42/32 - AA>99 aipf
46/13 - 99 set
56/31 - AK>T7 ai on AA2
59/29 - KK>QJ on 669
58/25 - KK>A5s aipf
22/17 - 87>A2h 7h8xQh ai
45/9 - KK>Q9 on Q34
25/15 - AK>JJ on 4K788
29/22 - JJ>66 on J96
56/31 - TT>87o aipf
40/10 - 99>QJ on 4Q29K
45/9 - 85>97 on Q6794
36/20 - KK>AJc on 4c7c797
56/22 - JJ>K7 on 68946

10 of the top 14 biggest pots were against >40vpip fish. only 1-2 hands were against regs. half of them were against 'maniacs'. most involved premium hands.

just trying to show where the money comes from..

08-08-2010 , 04:15 PM

#2570

VithelTone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumuzi

Man you must be bored as hell to do this...

08-08-2010 , 04:20 PM

#2571

TheWizardOfOddz

banned

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,180

Ship the ko

Full Tilt Poker FTOPS Event #11 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t120/t240 Blinds + t25 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t1585 M = 2.71
SB: t5295 M = 9.05
BB: t4035 M = 6.90
UTG: t4975 M = 8.50
UTG+1: t23365 M = 39.94
UTG+2: t1589 M = 2.72
MP1: t19735 M = 33.74
MP2: t6725 M = 11.50
Hero (CO): t3345 M = 5.72

Pre Flop: (t585) Hero is CO with A

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t1564 all in, 2 folds, Hero raises to t3320 all in, 3 folds

Flop: (t3713) 4

Turn: (t3713) Q

River: (t3713) 3

Spoiler:

08-08-2010 , 04:22 PM

#2572

Brian J

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,650

this goes without saying, the person that asked the original question wanted to know the difference i see in play at 25NL vs >50NL. i basically simply said there are more fish and regs are worse. it's kind of an ldo imo. i mean what else is there to say? i feel more comfortable in raised pots against regs at 25nl then i do at 100nl.

08-08-2010 , 04:23 PM

#2573

Brian J

TOTP Master

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 10,650

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t1564 all in, 2 folds, Hero raises to t3320 all in, 3 folds

Flop: (t3713) 4

Turn: (t3713) Q

River: (t3713) 3

Spoiler:

mine went the other way...

08-08-2010 , 04:28 PM

#2574

TheWizardOfOddz

banned

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,180

i got 9k now, card racking hard

08-08-2010 , 04:29 PM

#2575

ayuken

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 763

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

. i basically simply said there are more fish and regs are worse. it's kind of an ldo imo. i mean what else is there to say?

initially you said that regs are sooo bad, and you responded to my question with "they are weak/tight". I guess i was looking for an answer in the terms of "they are bad because they 3bet a lot more than they should from the blinds" or "they dont double barrel enough" or they dont vbet rivers thin enough.

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