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08-31-2010 , 01:12 PM
after regs call there, I always type this in: "I will not bluff the fish, I will not bluff the fish, I will not bluff the...."

so think about that sir if you are calling there not based on image or previous history, but handranges and think you can show profit, then please to be bumhunting me cause you are a ****ing ******.

Last edited by bigacsiga; 08-31-2010 at 01:12 PM. Reason: no offense meant of course
08-31-2010 , 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fattony7891
lol wat? That AJ hand is an abortion.

We never fold a nine and never should cos he never has better.

Also we can mos def have a straight on the river.

2p = set here because his river c/jamming range is straight or air.
i forgot that people c/c sets 3streets at 50nl
08-31-2010 , 01:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigacsiga
after regs call there, I always type this in: "I will not bluff the fish, I will not bluff the fish, I will not bluff the...."

so think about that sir if you are calling there not based on image or previous history, but handranges and think you can show profit, then please to be bumhunting me cause you are a ****ing ******.
lol.

in all seriousness, his flop play is marginal, turn play likely terrible, but i think his river shove is really good
08-31-2010 , 01:15 PM
Was at Commerce last night playing 1/2. Got dealt As7s in BB 3 handed. Button limps, aggro asian scotty nguyen looking guy SB completes. I check. Flop comes spade spade spade. SB leads for 15, I smooth call. Button folds. Scotty looking guy says "ohh you got nut flush". I remember caro's book of tells and remember that if player rechecks hole cards he prolly does not have the flush. Look at my cards again trying to hollywood, its the 7s and... wait thats a 2 of hearts... but theres sorta a spade on it too. Turn comes heart. I pick up the card and its a spade again...wtf. Scotty checks, I check. River comes spade. Scotty goes all in. I'm about to call, but then my bed vibrates and I hear "drooooid". Stupid phone woke me up.

lol not a level this actually happened
08-31-2010 , 01:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hsiffish
Was at Commerce last night playing 1/2. Got dealt As7s in BB 3 handed. Button limps, aggro asian scotty nguyen looking guy SB completes. I check. Flop comes spade spade spade. SB leads for 15, I smooth call. Button folds. Scotty looking guy says "ohh you got nut flush". I remember caro's book of tells and remember that if player rechecks hole cards he prolly does not have the flush. Look at my cards again trying to hollywood, its the 7s and... wait thats a 2 of hearts... but theres sorta a spade on it too. Turn comes heart. I pick up the card and its a spade again...wtf. Scotty checks, I check. River comes spade. Scotty goes all in. I'm about to call, but then my bed vibrates and I hear "drooooid". Stupid phone woke me up.

lol not a level this actually happened
please to be giving back my 30 seconds.
08-31-2010 , 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GOONERCAM
lol.

in all seriousness, his flop play is marginal, turn play likely terrible, but i think his river shove is really good
i love how the AJ is played if he has a plan. prob not a spot I would do it at, but it works out for him perfect on river and great card to shove over on, I like floating with a little more equity, that also gives you blockers.
my statement was towards the 77 call, which is pretty much the same as the famous "I have AA, best hand in poker, so i call river shove on 4 flush board with no flush card" call.

such as here i have blockers to 88, 99 and when i shove over river he cant/shouldnt/won't really call without QQ 86, 96, 88, 99, 66, and since i got blockers to most those I decide to shove... ups

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $400.00
BB: $240.00
UTG: $412.00
UTG+1: $353.90
UTG+2: $460.70
MP1: $400.00
MP2: $614.70
Hero (CO): $523.70
BTN: $696.60

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is CO with 9 8
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $12, 3 folds

Flop: ($30.00) 6 6 8 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($70.00) Q (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $52, Hero calls $52

River: ($174.00) 9 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $124, Hero raises to $439.70 all in, UTG+2 calls $252.70 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $927.40
UTG+2 shows 6h 6d (four of a kind, Sixes)
Hero shows 9c 8c (two pair, Nines and Eights)
UTG+2 wins $924.40
(Rake: $3.00)

Last edited by bigacsiga; 08-31-2010 at 01:28 PM. Reason: but whatever. the 77 call is still horribad based on ranges, without reads and history.
08-31-2010 , 01:38 PM
rofl

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($0.36)
BB ($4.87)
UTG ($1.66)
CO ($4.10)
Hero ($2.04)

Dealt to Hero 8 7

fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.22, Hero calls $0.14

FLOP ($0.47) A Q T

CO folds

Hero shows 8 7

Hero wins $0.45
08-31-2010 , 01:38 PM
What 9x is c/cing as PFR?

People don't c/c 99,Q9,98 etc in that spot. Why would we assume he does? Unless he has a read that we just go bluff happy betting all 3 streets when he checks to us.
08-31-2010 , 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fattony7891
What 9x is c/cing as PFR?

People don't c/c 99,Q9,98 etc in that spot. Why would we assume he does?
and 9T.

i think its reasonable to pot control all these hands bvb
08-31-2010 , 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GOONERCAM
and 9T.

i think its reasonable to pot control all these hands bvb
Don't see why he would c/c T9.

Unless I have a read I'm just gonna assume that he never c/c's 98 or 99 because people just near always autocbet all parts of their range without much thought. W/o reads I don't even see why he'd want to c/c those hands, its just gonna get him into all kinds of tough situations. While betting gives him all the usual advantages - value, protection and he can rep the top of his range if he wants to bluff on later streets etc.

He may do it with Q9, I guess.
08-31-2010 , 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigacsiga
i love how the AJ is played if he has a plan. prob not a spot I would do it at, but it works out for him perfect on river and great card to shove over on, I like floating with a little more equity, that also gives you blockers.
my statement was towards the 77 call, which is pretty much the same as the famous "I have AA, best hand in poker, so i call river shove on 4 flush board with no flush card" call.

such as here i have blockers to 88, 99 and when i shove over river he cant/shouldnt/won't really call without QQ 86, 96, 88, 99, 66, and since i got blockers to most those I decide to shove... ups

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $400.00
BB: $240.00
UTG: $412.00
UTG+1: $353.90
UTG+2: $460.70
MP1: $400.00
MP2: $614.70
Hero (CO): $523.70
BTN: $696.60

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is CO with 9 8
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $12, 3 folds

Flop: ($30.00) 6 6 8 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($70.00) Q (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $52, Hero calls $52

River: ($174.00) 9 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $124, Hero raises to $439.70 all in, UTG+2 calls $252.70 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $927.40
UTG+2 shows 6h 6d (four of a kind, Sixes)
Hero shows 9c 8c (two pair, Nines and Eights)
UTG+2 wins $924.40
(Rake: $3.00)
imo, you should coach me for free
08-31-2010 , 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fattony7891
Don't see why he would c/c T9.

Unless I have a read I'm just gonna assume that he never c/c's 98 or 99. w/o reads I don't even see why you'd want to c/c those hands its just gonna get you into all kinds of tough situations. While betting gives us all the usual advantages - value, protection we can rep the top of our range if we want to bluff on later streets etc.

He may do it with Q9, I guess.
i agree, its definitely quite unorthodox for him to have these hands but i think its more reasonable for him to take a potcontrolling line with them than for us to assume he's going to c/c airballs twice and jam the river as a bluff. like when the **** have you ever seen someone take this line as a bluff lol? i mean its pretty sick. i'd fold just because i couldnt give anyone credit for bluffing there
08-31-2010 , 01:50 PM
joephe posts a lot of bluff catching hands and i will freely admit it's like crack. i think i enjoy a good bluff catch more than hitting a set on the flop but i think it costs me as much or more than if i'd just fold every time. nothing tilts me more than when some idiot accidentally range merges me.
08-31-2010 , 02:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian J
joephe posts a lot of bluff catching hands and i will freely admit it's like crack. i think i enjoy a good bluff catch more than hitting a set on the flop but i think it costs me as much or more than if i'd just fold every time. nothing tilts me more than when some idiot accidentally range merges me.
Folding and not knowing what they had tilts me way more than calling and being wrong

Admitedly I had a pretty decent read for the hand above I posted and I think its a really bad call against an unknown as there are a fair amount of 9x hands he'd play this way as gooner pointed out, c/shoving a made hand as a bluff on the river just doesnt happen frequently enough at NL50 to call there against an unknown.
08-31-2010 , 02:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insta-4Bet
no
Lol. Fair enough. I saw you had the same chat for someone else and thought you were referring to that. It's good chat I can see why you use it so much.
08-31-2010 , 02:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joephe
Folding and not knowing what they had tilts me way more than calling and being wrong

Admitedly I had a pretty decent read for the hand above I posted and I think its a really bad call against an unknown as there are a fair amount of 9x hands he'd play this way as gooner pointed out, c/shoving a made hand as a bluff on the river just doesnt happen frequently enough at NL50 to call there against an unknown.
lol at saying you had a read, your thought process was this- i have a set so i call even though i should fold because i beat no hands, if i call and he is bluffing i will post this hand in uBBV and lol at my opponent since i "knew" he was bluffing and would call with all of my value range here.
08-31-2010 , 02:20 PM
This game is so brutal, I was praying one these 3bet lunatics would squeeze.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $10.85
UTG: $6.90
MP: $5.21
CO: $1.53
Hero (BTN): $5
SB: $20.36

Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.05, MP folds, CO raises to $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.23, BB folds, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.05) 8 3 7 (4 Players)
SB bets $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.55) K (2 Players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($5.55) 6 (2 Players)
SB bets $2.65, Hero calls $2.50 and is All-In

Results: $10.55 Pot ($0.51 Rake)
Hero mucked A A and LOST (-$5 NET)
SB showed 6 6 and WON $10.04 (+$5.06 NET)




Quote:
Originally Posted by hitsy
Lol. Fair enough. I saw you had the same chat for someone else and thought you were referring to that. It's good chat I can see why you use it so much.
08-31-2010 , 02:46 PM
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $60.48
SB: $25.12
BB: $25.00
Hero (CO): $51.02

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with T A
Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) T K 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.10, Hero raises to $4.00, BTN calls $2.90

Turn: ($9.85) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.70, BTN calls $7.70

River: ($25.25) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $22.10, BTN folds


Villian was pissing me off because we we're deep and he never folded to 1st or 2nd barrels. I planned on firing 3 barrels so long as the flush didn't come in. The river pairing seemed to make the board even more scary, though I suppose he could play a set this way. I'm not really sure what I was repping, either a boat, straight or flopped flush. Amidoinitright?

Last edited by e i pi; 08-31-2010 at 02:52 PM.
08-31-2010 , 02:59 PM
how the **** does liverpool fc end up going through another transfer window and dont sign a striker, jesus ****ing christ, championship here we cum

spurs get van der vaat ffs
08-31-2010 , 02:59 PM
Who said Spraggy was out?
DONE!

Rostucko with rb as well. Suck me.

08-31-2010 , 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
Who said Spraggy was out?
DONE!

Rostucko with rb as well. Suck me.

Losing player itt.
08-31-2010 , 03:01 PM
rakeback pro
08-31-2010 , 03:07 PM
Beat: In my last 15k hands I've won $41.35 and have paid $103.72 in rake. No rake back. Considering making a new account just for RB (flame away multi accounting)... gotta get up to $250 before I can take this money out though! I made an account with rb pros last week and have not heard back from them. Emailed FT support today and they said they sent my info their way. Fingers crossed...
08-31-2010 , 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hsiffish
Beat: In my last 15k hands I've won $41.35 and have paid $103.72 in rake. No rake back. Considering making a new account just for RB (flame away multi accounting)... gotta get up to $250 before I can take this money out though! I made an account with rb pros last week and have not heard back from them. Emailed FT support today and they said they sent my info their way. Fingers crossed...
This worked for me so stick with it, I kept pestering them and it was done in a few days.
08-31-2010 , 03:10 PM
Lol Liverpool. Good job Spraggy. Hows ur mum?

      
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