** Official August uBBV Thread ** - Page 141 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

dunno how this came up, but you can beat nl25 or nl50 without ever 3betting with non-value hands, and probably higher if you played really well. that doesn't mean it wouldnt be a leak though.

08-10-2010 , 07:52 PM

#3503

Insta-4Bet

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^^^^^ You'd have a nit image and would not be getting paid that much from other positions if you folded every btn imo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredron

I'll take it, just give me a min, need a couple of more hands.

lol, no, but I'll need to wait until the 15th to send bet to escrower, you should wait at least that long to get more action. Wizard - bet against this guy.

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08-10-2010 , 07:52 PM

#3504

Dumuzi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Insta-4Bet

Put me down for $20 if the sample is at least 50K.

is it sufficient to show total winnings > button winnings?

or are u suggesting we'd get some mega-nit image that wouldnt be getting paid off from other positions? a 22/18 would still be 16/14 or so.

08-10-2010 , 07:53 PM

#3505

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredron

Total winnings - button winnings = profit?

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08-10-2010 , 07:54 PM

#3506

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumuzi

is it sufficient to show total winnings > button winnings?

or are u suggesting we'd get some mega-nit image that wouldnt be getting paid off from other positions?

they would probably assume we're a fish so we could use that to our advantage, also just make sure you have a nit right after you and Co = Bu

08-10-2010 , 07:55 PM

#3507

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumuzi

is it sufficient to show total winnings > button winnings?

Of course not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumuzi

or are u suggesting we'd get some mega-nit image that wouldnt be getting paid off from other positions?

That's what I said in my last post.

08-10-2010 , 07:59 PM

#3508

Dumuzi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by verneer

For example ... it's critical to start 3-betting light at 10NL & 25NL but unnecessary to do so at 5NL (at least on Stars).

where did u get this from? most the winning regs i see at 25nl have like 3% 3bet and are just doing pure value.

08-10-2010 , 08:04 PM

#3509

Dumuzi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Insta-4Bet

That's what I said in my last post.

it'd have some effect, but you'd still get plenty of action being 16/14 or whatever. i'd bet 10k mdorand could win that challenge easily.

if people started folding too much because of your 'nit stats', u could adapt by loosening up your CO and HJ ranges, etc..

and obv saying 'no one' could do it is insane. even phil ivey?

08-10-2010 , 08:04 PM

#3510

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Insta-4Bet

Put me down for $20 if the sample is at least 50K.

lol I bet $20 to have someone waste 50K hands on not playing any sample.

Great gig.

08-10-2010 , 08:06 PM

#3511

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2:1, I put down $1k and I think I could do 50k hands in a month, folding every button and still be a winner. Sounds boring though.

08-10-2010 , 08:06 PM

#3512

TheWizardOfOddz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumuzi

any reg with a hud or eyes could see what you were doing

08-10-2010 , 08:08 PM

#3513

DaycareInferno

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you'd have to do a pretty big bet to justify flushing so much money down the toilet

08-10-2010 , 08:09 PM

#3514

DaycareInferno

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also expect me at all your tables if anyone does the bet

08-10-2010 , 08:09 PM

#3515

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWizardOfOddz

any reg with a hud or eyes could see what you were doing

I don't see your point really, are you saying that if I would have folded each and every button the players at NL25 would have adapted and somehow exploited me so my winrate would have been less than total winnings - button winnings?

08-10-2010 , 08:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredron

2:1, I put down $1k and I think I could do 50k hands in a month, folding every button and still be a winner. Sounds boring though.

i will also steal this mans action and bet a good amount 2:1 =]

08-10-2010 , 08:14 PM

#3517

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksight3

lol I bet $20 to have someone waste 50K hands on not playing any sample.

Great gig.

No, obv.

08-10-2010 , 08:18 PM

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Spraggy

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08-10-2010 , 08:19 PM

#3519

Spraggy

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cancel that side bet thing for me. keep the money keep my whole roll i dont give a **** im out cancel it my monitors broke and i wont be playin g RUUUUUUUULE ME ooooooooooout

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08-10-2010 , 08:19 PM

#3520

srooney3

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im on tv at the main event. dont worry about it

08-10-2010 , 08:24 PM

#3521

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredron

2:1, I put down $1k and I think I could do 50k hands in a month, folding every button and still be a winner. Sounds boring though.

I guarantee that you can get $2K of action for this, make the thread in bbv. 2 to 1 sounds fine. This would be hard to do as far as not accidentally raising or calling from btn one or more times over 50K hands, if it does happen a couple of times I guess we can just subtract the btn winnings and losses from the total.