lol why? you'd only say this if as i said earlier you assume he 3barrels a large portion of his pfr calling range....

lol at balancing in a tournament and lastly you are not tom dwan

this is undoubtedly one of the more ridiculous things you've ever posted

the standard at $33 tournies is obviously not world class, but its still a pretty tough one, especially in capped ones, so the idea that 'balance' is something that only applies in cash is maybe showing a poor understanding of the term.

as for the tom dwan comment, im not sure what you're really trying to say but im sure you got a little kick from it so enjoy

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Nah, I don't usually keep up with these, but have a little prop with a friend in another league, so will probably try and keep with this one.

this is where the tom dwan comment comes from, do you really expect to make good decisions against a unknown in a donkament after taking this passive line ? You will just end up check calling down(which you did do) since you have no info on villains holding. Lastly balancing is pointless to do against a random in a tournament because you have no idea what level he is on. You are thinking on level 5 when villain can be a level 1 thinker. It is pointless and not needed. I have had alot of success in donkaments and i have always played my hands standard in the early levels. Balancing was not part of my strategy.

i think its a little ridiculous to suggest that because im looking for the most +ev play rather than the easiest that ive got some sort of tom dwan syndrome. im sure thats how we become better at poker, because eventually the more difficult spots become easier to handle.

obviously i take your point that when i take this passive line its very difficult to assign a concrete range because in theory it will be superwide but i don't think thats enough of a reason to discredit the play. as for the balancing comment, i think you're getting a bit carried away just because the term 'balance' itself is being used and the fact that its usually associated with high level thinking and play. balance can be as simple as it wants to be, and so if when i check after raising pfr OOP it is usually to c/f, which is the case with a large proportion of players in these tournaments, that means people are going to be betting when checked to a helluva lot (and in fact far wider than they are going to call). thats a pretty standard theory to think about. it is also for sure the case.

as i said earlier, ive never argued against bet bet being a bad line, it is clearly not considering how big a range we can get value from.

We clearly have different opinions on this so i will stop arguing with you before i get banned.

lol i don't see why you'd get banned. neither of us are trolling or anything, i think its just good discussion, rather than arguing, but fair enough

i thought AceKingNL was a ssnl player?

what else is their to say, i think checking this kind of board is really bad with top pair good kicker and you think it is the best way to get value from a unknown.

him and george were playing HU table starting yesterday and he 5bet folded to like $12

lol.

anyway, as for results the guy had A7o and i got owned

I only comment here because i've seen you post something similar about c/c lines multiple times. What you say above would be true if opponents could bet three streets with worse, which i'd say the vast majority of the guys you will play just can't do at the micros.

that said, you really need a read to justify the play. with the right read, it's a very good line imo.

are you referring to bluffing when you say villain wont bet with worse ?

lol

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): $107.00
SB: $261.55
BB: $296.10
UTG: $100.00
MP: $100.00
CO: $118.55

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 5 J
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2, BB raises to $4, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($12.00) 8 5 J (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $4, Hero raises to $24, SB folds, BB calls $20

Turn: ($60.00) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB calls $30

River: ($120.00) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $49 all in, BB calls $49



AlexBadass: omg 5j??????????ß
AlexBadass: what a crap

Obv with the result being posted I'm not going to to go into a big discussion about the hand.

But I agree with Wizard than on this board, readless I don't see checking being the best option just because our hand is very vulnerable and super importantly you don't know his bluffing frequencies.

This villain may never bluff the river after firing two streets, so you end up making a river call, where you are never ever ahead.

im so hungover but really wanted to grind. it seems that when i play hungover no one can ever hav anything ever and they are always bluffing. Got so lucky to breakeven, the first hand is sick

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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BB: $27.91
Hero (CO): $25.35
BTN: $25.22
SB: $25.10

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with T T
Hero raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2.35, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.20, BTN raises to $25.22 all in, Hero calls $19.02

Flop: ($50.79) 6 A 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($50.79) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($50.79) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $50.79
Hero shows T T (a straight flush, Six to Ten)
BTN shows K K (a flush, Ace high)
Hero wins $49.79
(Rake: $1.00)

He obv has a draw ARRRRRRRRRRRR IN

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $25.90
Hero (BB): $28.84
UTG: $25.35
MP: $25.38
CO: $27.54
BTN: $28.64

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A T
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.75, BTN calls $2

Flop: ($5.60) J T 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.60, BTN raises to $8.50, Hero raises to $22.50, BTN raises to $25.89 all in, Hero calls $3.39

Turn: ($57.38) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($57.38) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $57.38
Hero shows A T (two pair, Aces and Tens)
BTN shows Q Q (a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $55.38
(Rake: $2.00)

AceKingNL and possibly Big_hazelnut are the only 2 decent players i have seen at the stakes, and yeah AceKingNL has put in a lot of hands at 100nl.

i never denied my river call was probably bad. btw Wizard advocated calling the river

btw i only said call because you took a ******ed line(which i did say in my original post)

Yeah I didn't really read all the posts, just a few.

I'm not saying the river call is good or bad though, just that this is not the kind of spot where I'd want to be start c/cing.

fair enough to both opinions, its a subjective game at the end of the day

i also just played a hand as badly as ive ever played a hand (since i learned to play anyway)