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01-24-2013 , 05:25 PM

#226

chimpstark

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 18

seems obvious that sublime, even after being outed, continues to use this gimmick account rather than his revlis account to separate his lucrative coaching business from the secrets of his winrate

01-25-2013 , 01:25 AM

#227

ishipkq

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,479

Quote:

Originally Posted by king10clubs87

There are probably a lot of Mid stakes regs who don't frequent these forums, and even more so who just lurk. So judging the quantity of players who don't break the rules by the number who speak up on 2p2 is inaccurate.
Ive seen you in many threads on 2p2 trying ever so fervently to argue with every poster that is against scripts. Your argument is that every poker player has no voice because every decision we make is for our selfish reasons and we all break the t and c's in some form or another. This is also false as I don't break the rules and I also care deeply about this online game thriving for years to come. And I know there are many more like me.
I understand that you want to protect this money maker that you have stumbled upon. I don't hate you for that. But allowing this script to remain "legal" will only lead to the demise of cash games or push them to some other direction such as zoom, which is the same as going extinct.
So what happens if I, along with the other 5-6 table starters at mid stakes decide that it's easier and more profitable to use this script instead of starting tables? And then this infectious thinking also spreads to high stakes as well. The number 1 reason why the majority of table starters start tables is because they want to make sure they are at the table when a fish sits. Surely it would be more convenient to just sit around and Jesus seat the fish instead of working hard to get all these tables going. So now we have everyone using the script and no one playing each other anymore. We have 15 tables at each stake with 1 person sitting (sort of like high stakes). The result of this is everyone eventually plays one third, one fifth, one tenth? Of the volume that we all used. Trust me when I say that there is 5-10 times greater chance of a fish sitting when 2 people play hu than if just one reg is sitting alone waiting. So we eventually lose the fish to other forms of games. Online cash games on pokerstars have now single handedly been destroyed by you. Congratulations.

couldn't agree more

01-25-2013 , 03:49 AM

#228

Ninja666

adept

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 784

Quote:

Originally Posted by king10clubs87

Online cash games on pokerstars have now single handedly been destroyed by you. Congratulations.

Is that good or bad for mankind, society? I think it is good. Poker doesn't provide anything to it. Do u think that u entertain recreational players and they feel glad about poker pros? LOL - they think that u r leeches And it doesn't matter if u r starting tables or not. You leech them. They come to have fun and any reg reduces that fun for them. They would be happy to play with other recreational players.

So whats wrong Huh.? Oh... I totally forgot that:
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Quote:

Originally Posted by king10clubs87

I understand that you want to protect this money maker that you have stumbled upon.

Poker pros feels so significant and valuable...

01-25-2013 , 08:43 AM

#229

KlNG KONG

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 100

lol at calling a seating script immoral, that is just biased/opinionated. maybe it is against what some ppl's dream of online poker looks like, but that has nothing to to with it beeing shady or immoral.

the only point that can be made against it is that it might be "bad for the games" (which basically means makes regulars/pokerstars less money), but at the end there is nothing players can do against it if pokerstars either thinks it's not bad for their company (some of you guys probably think that is scummy too :O ) or are beeing realistic and understand that having unenforceable rules is a bad idea...

but all the non bumhunters shouldn't care too much anyways since by starting tables you'll have a guaranteed seat with the rec and zoom up to 500nl + table starters at 25/50+

01-25-2013 , 09:58 AM

#230

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,771

sublime has a lot of accounts, jeez

01-25-2013 , 10:14 AM

#231

ISO

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,715

Ninja why do you play poker?

Surely your heart strings will be better served doing some conservational charity work?

Ppl here know the moral dillema's poker offers and have chosen to play, deal with it.

01-25-2013 , 11:13 AM

#232

gorlom

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,662

lol ninja - gtfo

01-25-2013 , 11:52 AM

#233

Two SHAE

Decentralized Financier

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,242

IP check on Revlis87, KlNG KONG, and idrinkcoke please.

01-25-2013 , 12:41 PM

#234

10K-in-Clay

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,196

The worst part about the script is it literally scares fish away. I start tables on several sites and witness this daily. Fish will sit in, if the table insta-fills with or a certain player is instantly on their left, they just leave. If it doesn't fill then they will buy in and sit. The table still inevitably fills within the next 10s-1min but the fish will stay because he doesn't feel like there's some shady **** going on. The average recreational player is extremely paranoid that everyone they are playing with is a bot, imo.

01-25-2013 , 05:07 PM

#235

Klakteuh

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,975

Ninja why do the **** do you play poker ? It's obvious from so many posts you think it's bad and that poker players are *******s and all kinds of whatever. You hate your job ? Why don't you quit ?

01-25-2013 , 05:18 PM

#236

z0mgtiltz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,947

Agree, either quit poker yourself or stop giving everyone this holier-than-thou attitude.

01-25-2013 , 05:38 PM

#237

whatastinker

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 370

any of you guys playing zoom @ 500NL for a large sample care to share winrates/results? been putting in volume during tcoop and i'm addicted, curious to see if people are crushing

01-25-2013 , 11:45 PM

#238

vbm1979

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 42

My results @ z500 are 4,4bb/100 over 540k hands sample.

01-25-2013 , 11:52 PM

#239

ishipkq

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,479

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbm1979

My results @ z500 are 4,4bb/100 over 540k hands sample.

sn? i'll check my results later

01-26-2013 , 12:12 AM

#240

vbm1979

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by ishipkq

sn? i'll check my results later

katallo

01-26-2013 , 09:39 AM

#241

bigdog6391

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 386

Quote:

Originally Posted by gorlom

lol ninja - gtfo

yea this. this subject has been discussed ad nauseum and you're trying to present it as if you're talking down to us?

it's enough already

01-26-2013 , 07:13 PM

#242

Imrahil

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13,626

.27bb/100 over 260k

01-27-2013 , 07:42 AM

#243

ToTMidiaN

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 87

^ Curious, how much does that differ from your z200 winrate?

01-27-2013 , 03:07 PM

#244

Imrahil

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13,626

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTMidiaN

^ Curious, how much does that differ from your z200 winrate?

1.36bb/100.

01-27-2013 , 03:34 PM

#245

imfromsweden

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 10,152

is that the good kind of difference or the bad one?

01-27-2013 , 04:33 PM

#246

Imrahil

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13,626

Quote:

Originally Posted by imfromsweden

is that the good kind of difference or the bad one?

thats my 200 zoom wr

01-27-2013 , 05:58 PM

#247

imfromsweden

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 10,152

Ah yeah I got it, was just kidding

01-28-2013 , 01:32 AM

#248

North Squad

adept

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 898

Hey guys, I'm new here.

Recently started playing 200 on stars. Looking for people to talk poker with.

Fire me a msg on here. Thanks guys

01-28-2013 , 11:45 AM

#249

IgotAHuge1

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 229

Educa-Poker Zzzzcum

01-28-2013 , 05:50 PM

#250

OurSurveySays

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 5,486

What kind of win rate would people want to bet was Unachieveable at 200 zoom?

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