lol I suppose its a bit obnoxious by me to do that and see where you guys are coming from - in the future i'll play while fish is sitting out.

You should already ****ing know these things, and not sit out when fish does. Why would you ever think it was a good idea?

There's a big difference between not being a table starter and being a douche who sits out and back in constantly in sync with the fish.

lol agreed! I have since stopped

I was basically just trying to do the most +EV thing without considering anything else, kind of selfish and I apologize.

for the sit-out guys to read and think a bit more if its +EV

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=515

WHAT THE F***?! I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER DONE ANYTHING OF THE SORT. YOU ABSOLUTE LIAR. My sn is oldjude. I challenge anyone who agrees w this liar to come forward with your sn. I don't know what your motive is to try to sully my good name with pure lies, but at least out your sn.

lol. this thread is awesome

how the fk is it possible to lose money with kk/qq/jj all-in pre.

its not like i am a nit, pretty sure most people have a note "spazztard pre" on me

what are you on about?



filtered for all hands vs oldjude max players = 2, as you'll notice I've never been able to play a sb against you

I had you marked as a grimmer before, today i decided to sit you after seeing your comments in this thread and you grimmed me again... my screenname is Dintyo, i'm outted and have absolutely no reason to "sully your good name"

also you can argue it all you want but a fold and sitout in the sb is just as much a grim as a raise and sitout

Not even close to correct. Someone doesn't wanna play hu so folds his btn giving you half a bb and you're upset somehow? That's bordering on ridiculous.

Im afraid its you who is incorrect.

Were these hands starting tables or was a table breaking?

Doesnt the name Grim come from the old High Staker who would sit H.U. and raise the blind, then leave saying "thanks for the ipod"? If he sat and folded I dont think people would refer to it as a Grim.

Are you ******ed? How is it grimming if i'm playing a bunch of tbls, one breaks up, I don't notice and am still sitting w auto-post on, you sit w me, meanwhile I get seated at my max amount of tbls, and instead of start a new tbl I basically give you an sb?

That is not me scheming to steal a bb, it's me not bothering to start another tbl so instead of raising w a random HU hand, just giving you the benefit of the doubt and leaving.

You want to watch what you say. I am and have been a respected reg for years. With all the incredibly scummy players around, girah, grimm, a lot of peoples former hero live pros who are in the process of screwing thousands of players out of their BRs on FTP, you decide to call me out for unethical behavior? Get a life you a**hole.

Enlighten me please.

you gain an advantage by playing 1 sb and no bb so having a hand that you happen to fold from the sb doesn't mean that you get let off playing the bb. However, if you always fold your sb and leave in these spots and are known to do so then this is obv generous and not taking advantage so it's more than fine.

The reason some people consider it's un-ethical to fold your SB and sit-out is because it's unlikely you'd do that with AA or another strong holding; often it's like regs see a weak hand, think 'meh don't want to play HU, I'll just fold and sit-out'', whereas if they get a hand they like they'll raise. Your opponent doesn't get a chance to play his SB, however, and kinda gets freerolled in that sense.

Fwiw I don't think it's a big problem at all and don't see the point in making a big deal out of small stuff like fold-sit outs in SB. There are much greater problems that need to be dealt with atm; lets just leave the small annoyances out for now

Thanks for the explainations guys. I can see the 'freeroll' aspect of it. I still feel it's nowhere near a big deal though in the grand scheme of things.

leggo vs cardrunners, gogogo.

I can confirm that Old jude is grimmer. I know that u will not believe me cuz all of u hate me but whatever.

Never grim me from tilt to stars but this thread is a ****ing trainwreck.
Run good maybe but the state of stars would make any player
regardless think twice.As i have list of players who HnR Grimm me ect ect i cant even be ****ed to tear them down on the PTR.

hey you're back again. Awesome

LOL...with your past form and still posting here tells you all, any person needs to know about online poker and online morals.

Are you speaking in some kind of obscure hybrid of the english language?

sceptical

just play sb and bb.. easy