I wonder why if there are so many regs whining about nl2k+ gone, there was never action at those stakes unless a fish was sitting...

- less opportunity to make money
- 5/10 wont get much easier now duh

omfg, thats sick.

bye party

Less opportunity to make money? It there were no tables running unless a fish was there, that's not true. Fish will play at lower stakes anyway and you'll bust him anyways (just more slowly). With the extreme bumhunting going on at Party I don't see this as a bad decision (as long as it's the start for more serious change).

its simply not true that there were no highstakes games running on party, i have played around 30k hands 10/20-25/50 on party past month.
The question is just if u are willing to fight with regs...

i got some money back but some its still missing for sure

does anybody had rebuy problems today?

yeah i keep getting that popup

Man... are you serious? No games above 10/20 for real? Like wtf... I know the site has problems... but they didn't have to outright get rid of the games above that... Rather find a way to remedy the problems. Man... this sucks. It's true that games aren't always available, and a lot of the times the action is HU between a few 5K regs etc, but when good games opened, man they were good. I don't know if this is going to be a good move in the long run... there are certain fish that for sure prefer bigger games, and definitely many regs that can't play 1K and below.

Sure for people who don't have the roll to play that big this is great... a lot of the big action will either disappear or move to smaller games. For ppl who played big... this is a complete joke.

Instead of getting rid of big games... why not get rid of ******s like Edge... seriously great job Angribird. Clearly this move was because of fukn ******s like u that showed way tooo overly predatory behavior, so clear to the fish that they were being chased. Two fish make big complaints in chat yesterday, then boom. Honestly thanks a lot. Everyone else that is pissed off about big games should also thank the scums like Angribird and agregator777. They made the poker experience at high stakes unbearable for recreational players.

**Oh and the whole coaching thing. Whoever who wants to nail this guy please go ahead. He is such a scum ****-face I hope he has an account busting downswing/lawsuits whatever the hell kind of bad karma he can get

This strikes me as a not very thought over move from Party. They want to be viewed as a micro-> midstakes site?

Also agree with skinnybob that the scripting issue has been very bad, although angr1/edge doesnt do the "sitout when fish sit out" like agregator does, clearly the regfishies find it extremely appalling when he and some others unhumanly fast snap sit in when they join.

i don't know much about how the 6max games on party work, but from what i've seen it's a massive predatory bumhunting fest, with people like revlis87 in the lead, so this might actually not be that bad of a move by party. but if they keep lowering the stakes of the highest running games, they'll lose more and more regs also. my normal stake was 10/20 HU, and now that they've removed both 25/50 and 10/20, it's only 5/10 that's left and if they remove that too eventually i'll just withdraw all my money and quit party for good.

the reg to fish ratio on party now is pretty bad, like on all sites, so im not sure they should keep treating regs like **** as in the end they'll lose too many players and in the end party might end up as a ghost town

They should make some rule that only Palladium/Palladium Elite regs (and fish obv) can play highstakes. That way people who don't play anyone except the fish won't be able to get the HS fish. However, it would be pretty hard to implement. They'd have to make a selection between bumhunters and fish. I guess it wouldn't be that hard actually.

In HU lobby non-palladium couldn't sit alone at the tables, just join tables to play other regs before they get palladium themselves.

That might lead to some multiaccounting, but still, should clean up the highstakes for sure.

Yes, we could create an high stakes club so to speak, where Palladium Elite members and certain players are invited, and only those players can play high stakes.

But honestly a much simpler solution would just be to get rid of autoseating scripts, most of these guys will not be able to get tables at good games without the aid of software... they aren't gonna just sit in front of the computer 24/7 staring at the lobby. These scripts and 3rd party notifiers that send PMS to players when fish log on are what destroys the games. This is why people who literally aren't even in front of the computer still manages to get seats faster than guys who are busy tabling 8 tables or more. It's such a joke. Just getting rid of these things alone will make the environment so much more friendlier for recreational players. Truthfully tablescanning software should probably be banned too.

*Also as useful as PTR is (I use it on a regular basis as well), it has also been a big factor to destroying online poker. Stars disallowed PTR for very appropriate and obvious reasons.

Many well known regs have been using auto-seating scripts on Party and Stars for years.

It is incredibly obvious on Stars when they auto-seat on a new 6-max table before the blinds have even been posted and they snap sit-out then quit as soon as they realise its regs sitting all without games playing.

Choosing to play whoever you want is fine, but using software like that just gives regs such a ridiculous advantage to get into games, which is unfortunately becoming arguably the most important thing to do in order to get hands in and make money since so few games run.

Perhaps Party will re-introduce highstakes in a zoom only format? We can only hope...

that is pretty epic. gonna be monoing stars soon as this rate

That was their response to me regarding the rebuy bug, so hopefully it's all sorted

Party down?

Yes, software update (hopefully fixes re-buy bug) and server maintenance. Should be back up in 90 minutes or so.

What has been fixed and what are the new bugs?

Since games dont run anyway at 10/20+, without the mega droolers playing, this is surely a good thing (for the general poker economy/player).

Ok, so if your a highstake reg your F*****, but that is only a very small % and hardly any of you guys play eachother anyway. Its funny that someone like this Skinnybob joker is making the most noise here now, since really he is one of the reasons the games have gone.

I think this is a pretty aggro move from party, but atleast they are doing something. I imagine they realised there is no money in highstakes games, and instead of fighting scumbag behaviour, scripts, sit out issue etc. just remove the games and most of their problems are gone.

For everybody grinding below 10/20, this is massive, and I think the majority of poker players will appreciate this change.

Looool, so much fail!

I dunno, he has some points. I mean, how much money do Party actually make on the higher games relative to their overall income? Those tables really highlight how scummy poker has become and I guess they think they are not worth the hassle - plus, presumably, they think rec players will have funds that last longer (hence more games running as regs prey on them).

Not saying it's a great move, but from their point of view it may make some sense. I just hope that they don't feel there is less pressure to sort of problems that really need sorting.

Not surprised at all. Data is from PTR/Stars over many millions of hands, surely Party situation is the same. The question is, will other sites follow...