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12-11-2009 , 12:56 AM

#9126

EdmontonRounder

adept

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I'll post the HH after happy hour finishes up.

12-11-2009 , 01:23 AM

#9127

luka allen

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,975

Quote:

Originally Posted by EN09

PTR?

I'm pokering right now (I'm one of those folks who are paranoid about ftp spying on them) so I can't look at ptr atm

12-11-2009 , 01:49 AM

#9128

ready 2 win

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,968

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaberTJ

Does anyone know if ***POCKETACESOK*** is 2p2? He run's me over at 25NL.

I have him 12/8 over 6k hands (all NL25) with +4.1BB/100.

Like other said he is pretty straight forward.

12-11-2009 , 02:17 AM

#9129

EdmontonRounder

adept

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,097

Ok, the pot was a little under $300 but still large:

https://www.pokertableratings.com/ha...981/3900957017

I didn't feel like wading through my database as I tivo'd the Office and wanna go watch it. Anyways, the overcall by the last guy was horrendous obv.

12-11-2009 , 02:42 AM

#9130

YummyYumChicken

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,591

how gutted do you have to be when you table qq in that spot and see your opponent has the same hand?

12-11-2009 , 03:51 AM

#9131

EN09

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,271

thin value, standard or spew vs. an 18/4 reg?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($58.80)
Hero ($58.30)
UTG ($56.50)
UTG+1 ($54.50)
UTG+2 ($25.95)
MP1 ($79.20)
CO ($75.50)
BTN ($33.80)

Dealt to Hero 9

UTG calls $0.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

FLOP ($1.25) J

Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1

TURN ($3.25) J

Hero checks, UTG bets $2.30, Hero calls $2.30

RIVER ($7.85) J

Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

NSFW

Spoiler:

12-11-2009 , 04:03 AM

#9132

EN09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YummyYumChicken

how gutted do you have to be when you table qq in that spot and see your opponent has the same hand?

You know one of them had that feeling of, "With all this action how can my QQ be good??? But look at that pot and I haz me an over pair! SHOVE!!!"

There is a different feeling of: When you know you're crushed - you're virtually certain you're crushed. When you know you're way ahead - you only think about being run down.

12-11-2009 , 04:25 AM

#9133

pele02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EN09

UTG calls $0.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

FLOP ($1.25) J

Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1

TURN ($3.25) J

Hero checks, UTG bets $2.30, Hero calls $2.30

RIVER ($7.85) J

Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

I like it, there is plenty of 2-pair hands in his range he will call with. But I don't think he had the K, he would raise that imo.

12-11-2009 , 06:42 AM

#9134

YummyYumChicken

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,591

Quote:

Originally Posted by EN09

You know one of them had that feeling of, "With all this action how can my QQ be good??? But look at that pot and I haz me an over pair! SHOVE!!!"

There is a different feeling of: When you know you're crushed - you're virtually certain you're crushed. When you know you're way ahead - you only think about being run down.

yea he's an idiot for putting his stack in with an overpair in that spot, but i am just saying that i am sure it was pretty gutting for him to find out that he didn't even have outs lol

12-11-2009 , 08:18 AM

#9135

TimTamBiscuit

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YummyYumChicken

yea he's an idiot for putting his stack in with an overpair in that spot, but i am just saying that i am sure it was pretty gutting for him to find out that he didn't even have outs lol

FWIW Kfecxxx SOL w QQ in spots where he shouldn't all the time.

12-11-2009 , 12:48 PM

#9136

ready 2 win

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WTF is that? The client freezed up every 5 min... F**** Full Tilt...

12-11-2009 , 02:24 PM

#9137

mpethybridge

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EN09

mpethybridge: Have you had an opportunity to play with the HEM Holdem Vision in the beta? Was wondering what your thoughts were on it as far as db interpretation.

no, but I have some time free right now, so maybe I'll take a look and post a TR.

12-11-2009 , 02:48 PM

#9138

DDAWD

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Well, it's Friday, my boss is out of the lab for a few hours, I was planning to spend the day working on a seminar, but that's been cancelled, and I live a few minutes away from home walking.

What should I do?

12-11-2009 , 03:00 PM

#9139

EN09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DDAWD

Taco Bell then,

Spoiler:

12-11-2009 , 03:04 PM

#9140

Choix003

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 205

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDAWD

Spend 1/3 of the time you were planning on the seminar, spend the rest at home grinding.

12-11-2009 , 03:11 PM

#9141

SaberTJ

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,946

Quote:

Originally Posted by YummyYumChicken

hey saber. are you sabertiger at 25nl and 25pl?
are you running into pocketacesok at the deep tables he plays? what do you mean by "getting run over". could you be more specific?

although he is competent, no doubt, he's harldy inspiring. try 3betting him more frequently (and more lightly) in position preflop and applying some pressure poftflop, too, in good spots. though he's decent, he's very straight forward.

Yummy - I am ***SaberTJ*** on FT and I only play NL.

I am running into the villain at deep 25NL tables. He calls me OOP with weak hands at times, and it always seems when I try and keep the pot small with one pair hands he catches up on the river with some funky straight or backdoor flush. Maybe he's just got me playing scared against him. But I agree he is straightforward. Every time he's bet the river he's had me beat.

12-11-2009 , 03:17 PM

#9142

mpethybridge

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I looked at Holdem vision. It seems pretty cool, but we have been doing the same thing off the players tab here in uFR for a while now. We couldn't make the super cool looking graphs and scatter plots, but we have been pulling out all the same info.

I also looked at Leak Buster, which appears to be a lol-bad effort to get everybody to play the same 18/15/3 style of poker.

12-11-2009 , 03:18 PM

#9143

mpethybridge

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One interesting thing I did see in Hold em vision: Nits <13/10 have the highest proportion of winning players. Nits rule, Lags drool, imo.

12-11-2009 , 03:23 PM

#9144

TheDataKid

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haha i know you are kidding mpethy, but that's kinda obvious
the baddest players around aren't playing tight, but loose

12-11-2009 , 03:29 PM

#9145

EN09

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,271

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpethybridge

I'll probably never get to the point of where I need to "tweak" my game for that last bit of EV or .25 of a BB LOL. If I could just maintain a solid ABC winning game over a long run I'd be content. A hammer, screwdriver and wrench set gets a lot built. The multi-tool, reversible, power ratchet with adjustable torque settings usually gather dust.

out of that 13/10, I wonder what % of hands raised are from the HJ -> BTN?

12-11-2009 , 03:33 PM

#9146

TheDataKid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mpethybridge

I also looked at Leak Buster, which appears to be a lol-bad effort to get everybody to play the same 18/15/3 style of poker.

18/15/3 is the new 13/10/3, you are just oldskool

12-11-2009 , 03:33 PM

#9147

SammyG-SD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mpethybridge

One interesting thing I did see in Hold em vision: Nits <13/10 have the highest proportion of winning players. Nits rule, Lags drool, imo.

this is true. 13/10 or tighter folks will have the highest precentage of winning players because they will naturally have card strength in their favor...the wider you are the more skill you need to win. B/C few people will actually have the skill, most players wider than that will be losers, but a select few will be big winners.

12-11-2009 , 03:34 PM

#9148

springsteen87

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mpethybridge

One interesting thing I did see in Hold em vision: Nits <13/10 have the highest proportion of winning players. Nits rule, Lags drool, imo.

Embrace variance you nit! LLvariance

12-11-2009 , 03:36 PM

#9149

TheDataKid

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nits deal with much worse variance then the looser players

12-11-2009 , 03:43 PM

#9150

luka allen

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,975

Anyone know if FTP will email me HHs from just one day? I just got disconnected in the middle of a big pot and i log back in and the HH is not in my database. I am backed, so it my numbers need to be accurate.

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