But I'm 95% sure that he's got no worse than JJ+ here, just based on how he played. He's a VERY passive player. I don't think pocket 10s have any more SD value here than 95.

Again, this is a very villain specific move here. A 30/2 (large sample) guy who comes out firing and very deep ESS.

I'm not necessarily trying to defend playing the 95o, but I'm trying to explain the rationale. I think if I hit, then I have a chance at his stack.

I get what you are saying, but I don't think you hit a hand often enough with 95o.

From MSNL FR Reg Thread:

Thought it was an interesting concept. If I 6-table, am I half a short stack???

If his range is as tight as you think it is, and he is as passive as you say, raising turn is very very bad.

Agreed. I think we are unanimous that my flop and turn moves were lousy. Question is if making the preflop call was that bad

Yes, preflop is horrible

If you're calling with 95o pf against tight pre-flop ranges then might as well just start calling with everything against tight players.

Calling with 95o is terrible, wouldn't you rather wait for a hand that plays a little better? You can flop trips or two pair with any hand, you might as well play a hand that can make a straight or flush too.

This isn't just a tight player. It's a 30/2 player. Total nit. While I would rather wait for a more ideal situation, don't you guys agree that I have a chance at 230bb if I get the 2pair or trips? It's not like his stack is made available every other hand.

If 95 doesn't offer me the odds even though it's 5bb to win 230 bb, that's one thing, but to stretch it to every single tight player is just wrong. I'm not THAT idiotic.

Problem with 95 is that it's so easy for those two-pair hands to get counterfeited. 952 flop, 2 turn, all of sudden you're chasing four outs against AA-TT. There's so many paired boards that make it difficult for a hand like that to hold up against an overpair.

Okay, well a total nit would be a 5/5 or something. This guy is a pfr nit but his vpip suggests lap tendencies which is a lot different.

Uh, you have a chance at his stack if you hit trips, but you have the opportunity often (whenever he raises). 95o is just total trash. You should have a range of hands for these situations, which is usually composed of scers and pps. If I were gonna play 95o pf I would play it mostly as a bluff to weight my other raises/three bets, but that doesn't apply here at all. If you're going to play 95o here, you should have a specific justification for this hand/situation relative to your ranges.

Thanks for the feedback, guys. It just seemed intuitive to me that you should play ATC that are unlikely to be dominated when it's so apparent what opponent is holding. But I'm here to learn. Thanks.

30/2's also dont always have aces or kings when they raise. They will often have jacks or queens and slowplay aces and kings.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...01&postcount=1

yay !
Im still affraid, coming from FTP it does not sounds super reassuring..

I'm excited to hear the anti-SS plans!

I haven't kept up with the FTP update thread, do they usually deliver on what they say? Or is it typical FTP...?

So in FTP terms of time this means before the end of 2010?

There will be a new rewards system? Any details yet?

The rest is normal FTP answers

Not sure I like the sound of a new rewards system - I already did the analysis for the current one!

How much does it cost to withdraw cash from FT? I can't find good info anywhere! Are there any completely free options (no direct hit and no MGR hit)?

It cost money to withdraw from FT?

Definitely with some options, 'cos I've seen threads discussing it. Usually an MGR hit.

That is just sick they hit your MGR for every s****. Just another reason why I am considering moving away from them after I clear my end year bonus in January.

Hey, I might be wrong and there's totally free options. That's kind of why I'm asking.

I played a slightly embarrassing hand today. Looking over the HH it seems pretty bad, but he did end up paying me off, so I *did* have the io I predicted.

Anyway, he showed top set! Is the turn a fold? I'd been stealing a lot and had been ultra aggressive in LP, but I hadn't shown down a good hand (usually people just folded by the river, lol).

History: a couple hundred hands on each other. He probably has me at 14/11 or something with ~65cb. He was running 13/10 with ~60fcb and 60fbs v. btn.


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+2: $79.22
MP1: $25.00
MP2: $4.30
CO: $3.95
BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $38.22
BB: $39.02
UTG: $4.95
UTG+1: $5.78

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 6 K
7 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) Q 7 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

River: ($17.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $11.50, BB calls $11.50 and shows QQ!

Make it 4x pre, barrel turn. As played...

Without history between you two if ur going to check the turn I think I rather c/f seeing as how you may not have implied odds because your hand will be rather face up as what it is and he kind of has to have the hand he does in order to call you.

My thoughts behind raising larger pre is that people seem to defend the BB fairly light so I dont want him to be able to call pre and float/defend flop cheaply. I also like betting the turn because Im oop, he folds fairly often, and I have outs.

Gone grounded in my room.
Gonna write 500x I WONT PLAY WHEN IM HIGH

A Thanksgiving tradition???

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