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Old 02-18-2009, 07:21 PM   #451
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

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Check new rake changes on FTP before you do:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...t-rake-414266/
Weird, looks like rake is higher at 25NL only... but I'm getting nothing from Stars FPP, so I think FT might still be better... I think. Too bad this **** is so complicated, god. Have to go around figuring out rake percentages and rakeback percentages and FPP points and ****. GOD DAMMIT I JUST WANT TO PLAY POKER WHERE IT'S MOST PROFITABLE!

/stabs FT
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:21 AM   #452
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Tommy Angelo describes this as poker funk or table funk or something like that.

You can be playing along and win a big hand early in the session and stack somebody with your pocket aces when they had pocket Jacks. You finish up a little bit more than a buy'in and even though later on you had to dump some hands because the board got ugly or whatever, still you feel pretty good about your session and about your play in general.

Same scenario, except that instead of stacking the guy with pocket jacks he luck boxes a set on the turn after you're both all-in. You still proceed to make some lay downs over the session and you wind up down 1 1/2 buy-ins.

Now, I know we can justify the AA hand by saying we got our money in good, but don't you start to think maybe those other lay downs were pretty marginal, and if I'd just folded on the flop instead of seeing the turn in this hand here it would have been a better play. In general you don't feel very good about the session and the exact same plays you made in the first session, but the difference was that you lost a big hand early and you were never able to get it back. This session then grinds on your thoughts till you play again.
Table funk. According to your description many people have this problem.

Another reason for me not to multi-table that much, I have way more time between hands to realise if what I did was correct and the right play, I got some time to think about a big hand I lost or won before.

When I am multi-tabling 12+ I don't have time for this and I already have to focus on QQ in EP while I just took a pretty horrible beat with AA vs 10s pre flop set on the turn

I always gave the advice to people to multi-table more so you don't have the time to think about your bad beat.
This is horrible advice, when you got the time to think about a bad beat you just took you realise it WAS a bad beat and I find it more easy to play on

I am not saying I'll never play more then 6 tables ever again, but for now it's really great just to focus on improving more instead of making fast money with memorized plays (I got a set, I raise 1 to 4.50, Bet 7$ at the turn, raise all in)
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:47 PM   #453
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

Can you FT guys help clarify something for me?

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/deposit-bonus-details.php

Based on this, each pot over $1 earns you at least $0.06 towards your bonus. This means at 25NL I would need 10,000 hands at most to release the full bonus, correct? This will obviously be less (like maybe 6,000), but is the math correct there?

Also, does anyone know of a Rakeback site that is capable of getting rakeback on an already made (but unused) account?
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:47 PM   #454
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

Alright I play at Stars right now at 10NL. The rake changed on FullTilt for 10NL and the fact that i can now move down if i start losing I am thinking about transfering over. Should I do it for the rakeback because I dont really have any use for FPPs at my low stakes?
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Old 02-20-2009, 09:56 AM   #455
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

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Can you FT guys help clarify something for me?

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/deposit-bonus-details.php

Based on this, each pot over $1 earns you at least $0.06 towards your bonus. This means at 25NL I would need 10,000 hands at most to release the full bonus, correct? This will obviously be less (like maybe 6,000), but is the math correct there?

Also, does anyone know of a Rakeback site that is capable of getting rakeback on an already made (but unused) account?
Not the Full 600. I think I average something like .12 points per hand. To complete the bonus you need 600*16.67 = 10002 points So that looks like about 83,350 hands give or take a few.

As far as getting rakeback on an existing account, you need to contact FT and they will add you to the waiting list. There is a specific affiliate they use that you can contact as well, but I can't remember their name.
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Old 02-20-2009, 10:53 AM   #456
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Not the Full 600. I think I average something like .12 points per hand. To complete the bonus you need 600*16.67 = 10002 points So that looks like about 83,350 hands give or take a few.

As far as getting rakeback on an existing account, you need to contact FT and they will add you to the waiting list. There is a specific affiliate they use that you can contact as well, but I can't remember their name.
Yeah 80k sounds about right, it's an absolutely absurd number of hands. But they do give you a long time.

I think I cleared $180 of mine in 20k hands at NL50/NL25 so somewhere around 80k at NL25 is probably reasonable
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Old 02-20-2009, 05:06 PM   #457
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

I was doing this last Winter/Spring after my first deposit, and I think I lost a huge amount of money just trying to burn through hands at 25NL to make the deposit bonus. I was grinding every day, no matter how I felt, and I think it set my game back some. I quit for almost 3 months after the bonus period was over because I was playing bad/running bad. The bonus money tends to hide the losses as well.

To all of those to whom I donated during that time, you're welcome.
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:29 PM   #458
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As far as getting rakeback on an existing account, you need to contact FT and they will add you to the waiting list. There is a specific affiliate they use that you can contact as well, but I can't remember their name.
It's rakebackpros. But you don't really need to know that, since you just e-mail FT and they let you know when you've been approved for conversion to a rakeback account, as the Capt. mentioned. I got mine in about 8-10 weeks or so. It's on their contact page, but I think it's affiliates@fulltilt.com iirc.
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Old 02-21-2009, 12:40 PM   #459
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

An odd spot came up last night, and I wanted to ask all of you what you think is happening here with the FTP software. This ended up being a cooler and I lost a stack, but there is a real question here, so bear with me.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 45127
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $26.08
UTG+1: $15.54
UTG+2: $24.75
MP1: $68.24
Hero (MP2): $27.44
CO: $5.55
BTN: $24.28
SB: $15.71
BB: $6.73

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP2 with T Q
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.10) J 9 K (4 players)
BB bets $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, Hero raises to $4.50, CO folds, BB requests TIME, BB raises to $5.98 all in, MP1 calls $5.23, Hero calls $1.48

Turn: ($21.04) 9 (3 players - 1 is all in)
MP1 bets $1.25, Hero raises to $20.71 all in, MP1 calls $19.46

River: ($62.46) 4 (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $62.46
MP1 shows 9 9 (four of a kind, Nines)
Hero shows T Q (a straight, King high)
BB shows K Q (two pair, Kings and Nines)
MP1 wins $39.47
MP1 wins $19.99
(Rake: $3.00)


On the Flop, I get Yahtzee, and I raise about pot. SS in BB shoves the rest of his stack in, and MP1 calls. My plan here was to shove over MP1 to iso and prevent the FD. After MP1 calls, I get a 'FOLD' and a 'CALL' button, but no 'RAISE' button and slider. Board pairs on the Turn and I get it in drawing dead, of course, but I really don't understand why I didn't get to reshove on the Flop. There's probably little chance MP1 is folding, but there were other hands he could conceivably have had that likely would have been forced to abandon. I might have played this had just a little differently after the event, but I was a little tilted by not being able to reshove and then seeing the board pair (frack). Even so, it was a cooler and I shut down my session in a very tilted state and 2 1/2 BI down for the night.

So . . . is there a reason poker-wise I would not have been able to 3-bet shove this flop? Is this a problem with FTP software?
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Old 02-21-2009, 01:05 PM   #460
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

It's because the BB's all-in wasn't a full raise (at least 2x what you raised). That only allows you to call or fold when the action gets back to you. I think MP1 could have still raised, but not you.
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Old 02-21-2009, 01:33 PM   #461
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You couldnt 3bet because he raised less then minimum raise so he didnt actually reopen action. This is/should be same on all sites.
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Old 02-21-2009, 05:27 PM   #462
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I know this is at BEST yesterday's news.. but I'd have to say props (finally) to FTP for adding the lowest of the low stakes games. Might bring me back (lost 600 last month) -- due mostly to me taking shots at games where most of my roll was in play. (yeah, i know... donkadocious... i get it...) so who knows.. maybe i'll stick 100 on and grind out $2nl.... and see what happens....
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:09 PM   #463
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To the guys that start new tables,

How often do you get hit and run?

I thought it was just those that would double up, but I'm seeing a lot of guys running after winning a few blinds. Very annoying
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Old 02-21-2009, 07:24 PM   #464
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this is going to sound like a brag because it is

I almost got the points to get Stox poker AND Card runners playing 6 tabling of 25nl
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:18 PM   #465
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To the guys that start new tables,

How often do you get hit and run?

I thought it was just those that would double up, but I'm seeing a lot of guys running after winning a few blinds. Very annoying
Track'em down, they usually sit at another short handed table shortly after. Maybe the next one you start =)
Nah seriously, the next one to join you is probably already skimming through the lobby ...
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:23 PM   #466
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It's because the BB's all-in wasn't a full raise (at least 2x what you raised). That only allows you to call or fold when the action gets back to you. I think MP1 could have still raised, but not you.
Thanks Capt. . . . I figured this out later as I was thinking about it, guess it makes sense. I've seen that situation so few times that I was unfamiliar with it.
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:08 PM   #467
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Track'em down, they usually sit at another short handed table shortly after. Maybe the next one you start =)
Nah seriously, the next one to join you is probably already skimming through the lobby ...
I did that to one, followed him to three different tables, each time he instant left.

Guess the only thing to do is take a note and refuse to play them. No point on me getting worked up over it.
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I did that to one, followed him to three different tables, each time he instant left.

Guess the only thing to do is take a note and refuse to play them. No point on me getting worked up over it.
lol, I'm guilty too. It's so much fun though ...
I also take a note and then give them the green flag I mark fish with, so at least they stay on the radar.
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Old 02-23-2009, 02:37 AM   #469
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Whoops, found this thread a little late.

Pretty much a reg. Right now playing $3-cap and $7.50-cap. Mix in a little 10NL when necessary.
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:36 AM   #470
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this is going to sound like a brag because it is

I almost got the points to get Stox poker AND Card runners playing 6 tabling of 25nl
props to you... meanwhile... i'm TRYING to get some lame T shirt or hat.
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lol, I'm guilty too. It's so much fun though ...
I also take a note and then give them the green flag I mark fish with, so at least they stay on the radar.
you can also find idiots/donks via the tabletracker feature on PT3... (well worth the $$)
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Old 02-24-2009, 11:45 AM   #472
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just try to play some hours each day and you'll do fine
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:08 PM   #473
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OMG I had to click through several pages to find this. Horrible, but good. We probably shouldn't complain if there aren't a ton of 2+2 ers haha.

Anyway, on to my point, I did have one.

The truly free training is even cooler than I thought!! I haven't been playing much this month and I was stressing about totally loosing my membership. They will credit your account in 25% increments - 1 week for each obviously. Pretty awesome imo. I can make it a week without the premium goods but 4 weeks would have been killer. Now I don't feel nearly as much pressure to try to grind 1k FT points at 25NL before Sat night haha.
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Now I don't feel nearly as much pressure to try to grind 1k FT points at 25NL before Sat night haha.
Easy business
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The truly free training is even cooler than I thought!! I haven't been playing much this month and I was stressing about totally loosing my membership. They will credit your account in 25% increments - 1 week for each obviously. Pretty awesome imo. I can make it a week without the premium goods but 4 weeks would have been killer. Now I don't feel nearly as much pressure to try to grind 1k FT points at 25NL before Sat night haha.
Can't wait to watch mpethy's and Split's vids when I get Stox on March 1. Overall there seems to be a lot of good content on Stox.
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