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Old 09-01-2009, 05:20 PM   #4476
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

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I 6bet OVER SHOVE really light......
Well, I... I 7be... MEEEH go muck ya self.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:27 PM   #4477
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You obviously don't need to spew to beat 100+, my spews are altogether probably breakeven or a little +EV. The most profit comes from getting three streets of value out of JQ on Q22 board because u "must have 56s again."
ifs, this was my post in a thread titled "AA flopped set in 3bet pot IP":

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If you play your air like imfromsweeden you can just bet this.


Edited to add MacGyver was an old TV show where the hero would defeat the bad guys with a paperclip, two pieces of scotch tape, and a swiss army knife. Now synonymous with smart, crafty, tricky.
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:36 PM   #4478
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I love to 3bet regs who raise UTG and aren't positionally aware. You get a ton of respect because "u 3bet their UTG range - OMG", but in reality u have crap. They fold so often it's just ridicolous. Try it sometime if you want to implement a little LAG in your game

Edit: Is it bad to reveal my secrets like this? Serious question. Maybe I should stop?
Well, noticed a lot of regs with like 9% 3bet on the BTN tonight. Was gonna find and post some hands because I really dont know what to do to this with say TT/JJ/AK/AQ
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Old 09-01-2009, 06:40 PM   #4479
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I love to 3bet regs who raise UTG and aren't positionally aware. You get a ton of respect because "u 3bet their UTG range - OMG", but in reality u have crap. They fold so often it's just ridicolous. Try it sometime if you want to implement a little LAG in your game

Edit: Is it bad to reveal my secrets like this? Serious question. Maybe I should stop?
This actually works pretty well since nobody is ever adapting, and once they finally fight back you have AA if you run a bit good in the game flow
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:41 PM   #4480
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

Has anyone ever tried to recoup $ from Full Tilt because of misclicks?
BB laughed at my snap call because it was THAT fast of a snap. Multitabling at its finest.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
UTG: $38.40
UTG+1: $130.70
UTG+2: $102.40
MP1: $20.50
MP2: $160.55
Hero (CO): $101.50
BTN: $17.50
SB: $100.00
BB: $101.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with 5 5
5 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB raises to $8, BB raises to $21, Hero calls $18, SB raises to $55, 2 folds

Final Pot: $63.00
SB wins $63.00
BB: loooooooooooooooooool
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:27 PM   #4481
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zomg, this hand was so funny. I was playing too many tables and I got AA and a set on other tables, so when he called me on the flop I just gave up to focus on playing the other tables:

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $30.00
UTG+1: $32.20
UTG+2: $38.50
MP1: $26.40
MP2: $81.50
CO: $88.20
Hero (BTN): $254.30
SB: $100.00
BB: $65.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with Q T
3 folds, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: ($3.50) 7 7 T (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2, MP1 folds

Turn: ($7.50) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.50) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:


I found a new way to run good, imo.
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:33 PM   #4482
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

has FT been crashing for anyone else today? I had a crash while playing earlier today and just now have had 2 crashes since trying to start up a session. god i hate FT's software....
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:35 AM   #4483
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Ah hahahahahahhaa, that hand is so awesome mpethy. SOUL READ!!!
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:41 AM   #4484
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Well, noticed a lot of regs with like 9% 3bet on the BTN tonight. Was gonna find and post some hands because I really dont know what to do to this with say TT/JJ/AK/AQ
Calling is fine with TT/JJ, pherhaps AQ. I'd definitly 4bet AK and get it in. But DON'T PLAY FIT OR FOLD POSTFLOP (if u decide to flat OOP)!

If u have air u can obviously 4bet/fold. Usually works out pritty good.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:03 AM   #4485
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PSA: FTP, please stop giving people sets in 3bet pots or at least don't give me TPTK, 2-pair or trips!

Thanks!
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Old 09-02-2009, 08:17 AM   #4486
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

I want a PSA.
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:35 AM   #4487
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

A few people I've talked to have said they've been freezing / lagging the past day or two.
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:35 AM   #4488
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It appears the flying chatboxes have returned in the most recent update... Hooray!
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:55 AM   #4489
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

Lol, when regs start playing like this aginst you, u know it's time to tighten up:


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: $17.40
Hero (CO): $100.90
BTN: $15.00
SB: $19.00
BB: $52.20
UTG: $126.45
UTG+1: $57.30
UTG+2: $107.00
MP1: $116.40

Pre Flop: ($2.00) Hero is CO with 4 J
3 folds, MP1 raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $13, 3 folds, MP1 calls $9

Flop: ($27.50) K 9 5 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($27.50) 7 (2 players)
MP1 bets $16, Hero raises to $35, MP1 calls $19

River: ($97.50) 3 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $97.50
Hero shows 4 J (King Jack high)
MP1 shows T K (a pair of Kings)
MP1 wins $95.00
(Rake: $2.50)
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:13 PM   #4490
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

ifs, that looks like a HU hand history, 'cept there's nine people at the table.


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Old 09-02-2009, 01:06 PM   #4491
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I'm beginning to seriously consider emailing Full Tilt support to beg them to turn my doomswitch off. I may be going insane.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:34 PM   #4492
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400k hands!!! ARRRGHHHHHH!!!!!! what was your overall PTBB/100? i sure as hell hope i get to 50NL before 400k hands...
Several databases, but I think I'm slightly above 3ptbb/100 total. It's over 1.5 years or something though.

Two days into the NL50 adventure now and there are a few differences for sure. 15-20% 3bet regs are the new thing apparently. They are all horrible of course, but some adjustments is in order. Can't say I love the extra swings, but the level looks quite beatable.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:12 PM   #4493
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I'm trying to do some research here on what i would like to call Joopjan theorem. "Whenever uses the bet pot button on full tilt, theres a higher then usual chanche that the villain is bluffing". This is based mostly on my own memory and my database. When i saw sd after being bet into for pot on flop and turn the best hand i saw is 2 pair and the vast majority is some kind of bluff.

I need some help proving this though and would like to ask you guys to check your own database to see if you can comfirm my findings. I used the following filters:

Flop facing bet size / pot size > 0.95
Turn facing bet size / pot size > 0.95
Went to showdown

Try to note what your won% at sd is and what kind of holdings your villains have on the river and on the flop when they start betting. The sample size shouldnt be too big since it doesnt come up a ton. If possible only data from full tilt.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:22 PM   #4494
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

2 Hand sample from FTP.

First hand Villain had TPNK and ended up with TPNK.
Second hand Villain had TPTK on super drawy board and ended up with 2 pair top kicker because board paired.

Lost first hand, won second.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:31 PM   #4495
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Do you want both filters on at the same time or do you just want to examine the bet pot btn on those two streets?

Like with just the flop bet pot filter, I returned 69 hands that I haven't gone through entirely. Some are monsters, some are C+ with air.

Also, what about river Bet Pot? I usually do that for value, and it was ingrained in my head that is wasn't a bluff after calling down way too many monsters that bet pot on the river.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:52 PM   #4496
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I'm trying to do some research here on what i would like to call Joopjan theorem. "Whenever uses the bet pot button on full tilt, theres a higher then usual chanche that the villain is bluffing". This is based mostly on my own memory and my database. When i saw sd after being bet into for pot on flop and turn the best hand i saw is 2 pair and the vast majority is some kind of bluff.

I need some help proving this though and would like to ask you guys to check your own database to see if you can comfirm my findings. I used the following filters:

Flop facing bet size / pot size > 0.95
Turn facing bet size / pot size > 0.95
Went to showdown

Try to note what your won% at sd is and what kind of holdings your villains have on the river and on the flop when they start betting. The sample size shouldnt be too big since it doesnt come up a ton. If possible only data from full tilt.
this might be a bit skewed because of the times we shove over their turn bet and they fold their bluff or they c/f riv but I'll have a look in my DB anyways
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:56 PM   #4497
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Ok here you go:

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

CO ($52.85)
Button ($45.40)
SB ($167.60)
Hero (BB) ($101.75)
UTG ($35)
UTG+1 ($45)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($54.25)
MP3 ($46.95)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 10
7 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4) 6, Q, 4 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($12) 10 (2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero calls $12

River: ($36) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $36

Results:
SB had 8, 3 (high card, Queen).
Hero had A, 10 (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero won $34.20



No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

Button ($50.80)
SB ($77.30)
BB ($87.30)
UTG ($53.90)
UTG+1 ($22.20)
MP1 ($189.25)
MP2 ($100.50)
Hero (MP3) ($100)
CO ($56.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, Q
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $2, 3 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.25) Q, 7, 3 (3 players)
BB bets $6.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.25

Turn: ($18.75) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $18.75, Hero calls $18.75

River: ($56.25) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $56.25, Hero calls $56.25

Total pot: $168.75

Results:
BB had Q, A (two pair, Queens and fours).
Hero had A, Q (two pair, Queens and fours).
Outcome: BB won $82.90, Hero won $82.85




No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

UTG ($8.75)
MP1 ($48.05)
Hero (MP2) ($54.60)
CO ($10)
Button ($62.70)
SB ($51.65)
BB ($75.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K
1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero bets $2.50, 4 folds, MP1 calls $2

Flop: ($5.75) 4, 9, 10 (2 players)
MP1 bets $5.75, Hero calls $5.75

Turn: ($17.25) 9 (2 players)
MP1 bets $17.25, Hero raises $46.35 (All-In), MP1 calls $22.55 (All-In)

River: ($96.85) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $96.85

Results:
MP1 had Q, 8 (two pair, nines and eights).
Hero had K, K (two pair, Kings and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $100.40



No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

Button ($15.90)
SB ($113.25)
Hero (BB) ($100)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($35.45)
MP1 ($93.90)
MP2 ($32.80)
MP3 ($100.80)
CO ($295.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 6
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($2) 7, J, 8 (4 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2

Turn: ($8) 4 (3 players)
SB bets $8, Hero raises $24.50, CO calls $24.50, SB calls $16.50

River: ($81.50) 9 (3 players)
SB bets $86.25 (All-In), Hero calls $73 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $227.50

Results:
SB had 6, 5 (straight, nine high).
Hero had 5, 6 (straight, nine high).
Outcome: SB won $125.50, Hero won $112.25



No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

SB ($94.05)
Hero (BB) ($50)
UTG ($50.75)
MP1 ($19.75)
MP2 ($43.25)
CO ($29)
Button ($141.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 4
2 folds, MP2 bets $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 4, 2, 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

Turn: ($11.25) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $11.25, Hero raises $24, MP2 raises $25.50, Hero raises $20.50 (All-In), MP2 calls $1 (All-In)

River: ($86.75) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $86.75

Results:
Hero had 4, 4 (full house, fours over eights).
MP2 had A, A (two pair, Aces and eights).
Outcome: Hero won $90.50
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:20 PM   #4498
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

Take 2 promo.

My FTP total on FT does not match the one I get on the Take promo page.

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Old 09-02-2009, 05:06 PM   #4499
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it's only the first two tables you open? So if you're more than two tabling, they will not be equal.
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Old 09-02-2009, 05:17 PM   #4500
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Take 2 promo.

My FTP total on FT does not match the one I get on the Take promo page.

??
I believe the take 2 page only shows the bonus points you've earned by using that promo. Not sure.
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