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Old 08-03-2009, 07:03 PM   #3651
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oh that was you from 2p2. sorry about that. but i was really pissed you squeezed my UTG open and the fish went on some random rant. I had to bet bigger because i was hoping to get stacks in vs your perceived KK, AA whatever.

btw are you really not ibizza on pokerstars? just wanted to know!

sorry about the berating!
Nah, not ibizza. I had AK. I don't have that big a sample on you, but your opening range from UTG was wider, and I figured I could get you to fold most of your range and have the fishy to myself in a big pot.

I figured with the flop came down that there was no way I was going to win that pot unless I caught Broadway.

No prob about the berating, thought it was funny.

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Old 08-03-2009, 08:34 PM   #3652
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jus took almost my whole roll off ftp to start bonus whoring it up. only $300 on ftp... back to nl10... sigh lol
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:29 PM   #3653
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jus took almost my whole roll off ftp to start bonus whoring it up. only $300 on ftp... back to nl10... sigh lol
you mean, to bonus whore on other sites?

...I should really take advantage of FTP's first time deposit bonus...it would probably be pretty easy to clear at 25nl
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:19 AM   #3654
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...I should really take advantage of FTP's first time deposit bonus...it would probably be pretty easy to clear at 25nl
I read you needed 85k hands a while back to clear it at 25NL. Currently i should clear it in 64k hands but I do play a lot HU and shorthanded by starting tables.
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:21 AM   #3655
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Vinnie, they were all with me on the 200NL tables this weekend....

Saturday was

Sunday was

Seriously, I am SURE it is a sample size issue. Have patience....good skill to have for poker anyway, wouldn't you say?
Played last night again. I saw my first 3 players with >25 VPIP . I'm only three tabling so I probably only see 40-50 players per session and I can swear most of these guys are tighter than those I faced at 2NL. I have my HUD set up where anyone below 21 VPIP is orange or red and I've been plyaing against a see of orange and red at 5NL

Not that it's an issue per se, it's just that I am asking myself questions that I had solved for 2NL, i.e.: do they play back at you? 2NL answer: no, they're playing their hand. 5NL answer: I have no friggin clue Question: do they defend their blinds? 2NL answer: nope. 5NL answer: I have no friggin clue

I paid to learn these things at 2NL, I just want to avoid paying again at 5NL
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:46 AM   #3656
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180$ bonus to go..just cleared my first 20$

it kinda sucks, they clear it every time you make 20$, which sucks.. because, well.. I run so bad, so every time they clear 20$ its just a bi for me......

I know it doesn't matter if you look at the math, but mentally it sucks biggie
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:48 AM   #3657
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do they play back at you? 2NL answer: no, they're playing their hand. 5NL answer: I have no friggin clue Question: do they defend their blinds? 2NL answer: nope. 5NL answer: I have no friggin clue
believe it from a former calling station (me), people play back at you WAY less than you think and IF they do it's so obvious (and now don't start talking yourself in.. 'see, he is playing back, it's obvious!' if he raised you for the second time in a row..)
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:25 AM   #3658
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

I am pretty new to the FT FR $25NL scene. I only play evenings and weekends ~10-15 hours a week.

My first 10k hands have gone well overall. I feel like I call down light as I am moving from fixed limit 6-max and habits are hard to break. I don't use HUD and am wondering what people have on me in their database/notes.

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Old 08-04-2009, 10:28 AM   #3659
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I am pretty new to the FT FR $25NL scene. I only play evenings and weekends ~10-15 hours a week.

My first 10k hands have gone well overall. I feel like I call down light as I am moving from fixed limit 6-max and habits are hard to break. I don't use HUD and am wondering what people have on me in their database/notes.

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Start using a datbase tracker, i recommend Holdem manager. Def. +EV

Asking people the stats they have on u is kinda useless. Some people will have you as a 20/15, some a 9/5
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:19 PM   #3660
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

Alright, been splitting my time between NL50 and NL100 pretty evenly right now and have notice a few differences between the regs.

NL50 is such random aggressiveness and people will get themselves to the commitment threshold so much easier. At NL100, people are calling down lighter, but they are playing a pretty good small ball technique and folding much earlier.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:28 PM   #3661
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Villain has reg stats 17/14 over 140 hands.

Full Tilt $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+1: $121.45
UTG+2: $21.35
MP1: $100.00
MP2: $100.00
CO: $133.75
Hero (BTN): $101.00
SB: $185.35
BB: $120.95[
UTG: $76.45

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with Q Q
6 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 3 K T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB raises to $14, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($34.50) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($34.50) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $9.00, Hero ??
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:33 PM   #3662
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Looks like a/x making a move on the flop.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:42 PM   #3663
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Ax? I was thinking almost entirely Kx. Does Tx or QJ show up here enough to call on the end?
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:53 PM   #3664
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Ax? I was thinking almost entirely Kx. Does Tx or QJ show up here enough to call on the end?


I think he pretty much never has Kx here except KT and AK, but I still think AK is unlikely. The fact he bet so small on the river I think it's alot more likely to be be Ax rather then a bluff. if he bet $20 on the river it's a bit closer I think. Anyway shot taking fail, -3buy-ins in 900 hands, ship. FT is going to murder me this month I think, so I'm gonna switch sites.
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Old 08-04-2009, 04:52 PM   #3665
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F U C K Y O U F T P! ! ! ! ! !


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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BB: $29.55
UTG: $55.40
UTG+1: $55.10
UTG+2: $42.25
MP1: $11.05
MP2: $30.10
CO: $11.45
Hero (BTN): $63.75
SB: $9.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A Q
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) A 3 3 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25

Turn: ($12.75) Q (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $7, Hero times out b/c the ****ing **** client freezes and I can't click any ****ing buttons

Final Pot: $12.75
UTG+2 wins $12.15
(Rake: $0.60)

...AND **** YOU MOTHER TOO!!!!!
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:20 PM   #3666
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Alright, been splitting my time between NL50 and NL100 pretty evenly right now and have notice a few differences between the regs.

NL50 is such random aggressiveness and people will get themselves to the commitment threshold so much easier. At NL100, people are calling down lighter, but they are playing a pretty good small ball technique and folding much earlier.
Which level do you prefer if you dont mind me asking? Seems to be a decent amount of people thinking nl50 is a difficult and almost pointless level for some reason and then there are others that think it is a cake walk. Is it just the first difficult level and so people have a harder time with it or is it really as hard if not harder then nl100?
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:27 PM   #3667
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Which level do you prefer if you dont mind me asking? Seems to be a decent amount of people thinking nl50 is a difficult and almost pointless level for some reason and then there are others that think it is a cake walk. Is it just the first difficult level and so people have a harder time with it or is it really as hard if not harder then nl100?
its hard to say right now, as I don't have a ton of hands at NL100 (15K over the last week vs. +300K hands at NL50). At NL50 I have done a lot of experimenting and working on my game, where the few hands I have at NL100 I have just been playing poker, plus I haven't gone on autopilot yet. I have so many hands at Nl50 that I have had several BE and big downswings, plus I have tried to re-invent myself numerous times.

But if you really want me to choose, I like NL100 better. NL50 with all the random aggressiveness you are constantly facing polarized ranges for your entire stack or get into epeen competition. NL100 you are not going to get 3 solid streets from a guy with middle strength hands as much, but you will be able to get solid 1-2 streets with 4th pair and you will be able to actually show a profit with your red line.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:31 PM   #3668
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its hard to say right now, as I don't have a ton of hands at NL100 (15K over the last week vs. +300K hands at NL50). At NL50 I have done a lot of experimenting and working on my game, where the few hands I have at NL100 I have just been playing poker, plus I haven't gone on autopilot yet. I have so many hands at Nl50 that I have had several BE and big downswings, plus I have tried to re-invent myself numerous times.

But if you really want me to choose, I like NL100 better. NL50 with all the random aggressiveness you are constantly facing polarized ranges for your entire stack or get into epeen competition. NL100 you are not going to get 3 solid streets from a guy with middle strength hands as much, but you will be able to get solid 1-2 streets with 4th pair and you will be able to actually show a profit with your red line.
Sounds interesting. Been talking to a lot of people who just say that $50nl seems like a worthless level and for some reason gives people a hard time to beat it. Not sure if the SS'ers and regs just hang out there for awhile or if why it would be even close to as hard as $100nl. Thanks for the input.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:32 PM   #3669
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Which level do you prefer if you dont mind me asking? Seems to be a decent amount of people thinking nl50 is a difficult and almost pointless level for some reason and then there are others that think it is a cake walk. Is it just the first difficult level and so people have a harder time with it or is it really as hard if not harder then nl100?
I have a ****ing hard time at 50NL compared to 25NL for some reason I don't get.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:34 PM   #3670
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I found 50 to be pretty easy compared to 100. only played 50k hands at 50 but my winrate when i moved to 100 dropped in half.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:35 PM   #3671
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I played 50NL quite a lot at FTP and I did not find it that hard at all. Regs are mostly bad and predictable, and fishes are fishes. Nothing changes, just proportions.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:36 PM   #3672
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I had a break from NL 50 for a few days and fired up some tables Sun night. I was like b/c donk betting the flop was the new check raise and people were playing back on any board. Very annoying when you can't even make a pair against those guys. Pairs are good.
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I had a break from NL 50 for a few days and fired up some tables Sun night. I was like b/c donk betting the flop was the new check raise and people were playing back on any board. Very annoying when you can't even make a pair against those guys. Pairs are good.
This is pretty much how I feel 50NL is

Have to do some digging in HEM to see if I only run bad or playing bad, both perhaps.

Edit: Ideas on what to look for?
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Thanks. I found it. But I have the session option checked and I can't find it displayed anywhere? (The other options I checked show up on the right sidebar of the lobby.)
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Have you tried scrolling down the sidebard by pressing the arrow near the bottom right of the right sidebar?
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omg... theres this reg that always sits with me when i start new tables and i dont play him hu. todya he chirped and i finally looked him up... down 3k lmao. looks like i will never sit out vs him again
I sucked today starting tables. Sigh. However, I don't trust Poker Table Ratings for real figures. I know what they have on me is way off. Also, pretty sure I read that it's against T&C at FTP to have it open during a session.

I don't have many hands at 100NL, but as I remember I found it more aggressive PF. Would you agree Sammy?
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:44 PM   #3675
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I had a break from NL 50 for a few days and fired up some tables Sun night. I was like b/c donk betting the flop was the new check raise and people were playing back on any board. Very annoying when you can't even make a pair against those guys. Pairs are good.
that was the thing that made NL50 hard, it seem like a high variance play as people had such polarizing ranges but the pots got bloated so much. So NL50 is probably more beatable than NL100, but I haven't had so many confusing thoughts as villains are playing good lines (even there bluffs). At N50 I had so many hands where I had zero idea what the villain had until the cards where face up and I was like

At least at NL100, I can be like "yeah you may be bluffing me off the best hand, but that is a really solid line, vnh"
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