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Old 07-22-2009, 10:32 AM   #3201
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I need to ask, is this standard aginst a tight shortstacker??

Define Tight because a Tight Shortstacker (from my experience) doesn't OPENLIMP

Therefore I see him as Fish and I just ship it on the Turn
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:48 AM   #3202
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Soon to be FT reg here! I have been crushing 25NL and 50NL on stars and I'm hoping to do the same on FT. Its time to take advantage of RB. Throwing a grand on there Friday to start at 25NL. See you there!!
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:50 AM   #3203
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agree with the last point.

assuming the flush or A never hits, i think this is a good board to plan to bet the flop and the turn and then check/call the river. This is actually a sub-optimal villain, because he is LP preflop (but ok aggro post) and has some kings in his cold calling range, but the board is pretty good for it, so, on balance i would seriously consider this line. If i don't take this line I basically bet the flop to collect dead money and then give up unimproved. I would actually lean toward giving up against a loose passive, as, if he bets when checked to, he has it a lot more often than an aggro player, and if he checks behind he has either a draw or a crappy king and I am going to be able to get it to showdown a lot of the time.

You're bluff catching on the river if you bet the flop and turn, but most of his kings are going to want to check behind on the river, so bluffs will make up a pretty high percentage of a lot of villains' range to bluff this river.

The trickiest spot to be in in this situation is bet flop, turn checks through, flush does not complete and you check the river and he bets.
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Now, enough strat, this is a chat thread

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Old 07-22-2009, 10:55 AM   #3204
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Who the hell is she? Hally Berry?

oO yugh
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:38 AM   #3205
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Who the hell is she? Hally Berry?

oO yugh
Yes, it's Halle.

Don't be saying bad things about her, I think it's a bannable offense.
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:53 AM   #3206
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so who here is xxxMyTearsxxxx? seems like he/she had all the answers versus me today.
he's my brother
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:58 AM   #3207
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so who here is xxxMyTearsxxxx? seems like he/she had all the answers versus me today.
I'm right here
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:44 PM   #3208
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O noes, there is two of them

Do you play 25NL? Or is your FT SN not the same?

Edit: Welcome btw

Edit2: Sammy doesn't play 25NL so you must be someone else
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:50 PM   #3209
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I've moved up to 50NL for one week or perhaps a bit more..
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:24 PM   #3210
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he's my brother
he pwnd me.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:32 PM   #3211
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Yes, it's Halle.

Don't be saying bad things about her, I think it's a bannable offense.
truth. you have been warned.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:01 PM   #3212
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Thanks,

Now, enough strat, this is a chat thread

Am I seeing stretch marks on those boobies????

Say it ain't so Halle.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:08 PM   #3213
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Well, I wouldn't be bet/folding the whole way if ... a heart comes
No, I wouldn't be either, I was probably unclear. I think this type of villain will call another bet if a heart falls with a much wider range (and a range that is ahead of us, fewer better hands fold now) than if an ace falls. Very possibly wrong though, it's a thin spot. With a heart obv all middle pair+heart calls again, Kx hands call again because i haz top pair, etc.

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In my opinion, we don't like an ace on the turn because he has a lot of ragged suited aces in his cold calling range. The AhXh hands definitely call us on the flop. All AJ combos are in his preflop range, and that hand is definitely peeling. QT combos are in his range and an ace would hit them. Probably we can assume that some small fraction of his Ax combos float us on a call/bluff.
Yeah I was thinking it would be helpful to have some sense of what his standards for continuing to a cbet are. If he's floating boards with a lot of Ax then it's not a good card, but I think it's more likely his range hates the A and we can bet it. Boards like this mess with my (admittedly poor) sense of combinatorics though.

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All of that combines to make the ace a pretty ****ty card for us. If we bet it, we are turning our hand into a bluff, and i think we have more showdown value than bluff value on a suited and straighted board against a loose passive who calls preflop with speculative hands a lot.
Agreed re: turning our hand into a bluff, but I don't think that's a big problem. As a guess I'd say vs his range on the flop our bet is ~40/35/25% dead money/value/bluff, an ace turn makes it ~10/30/60% dead money/value/bluff. I think there's also some value in betting an ace turn to protect our hand on the river (not sure how profitable bluff-catching is here, someone once went through my DB and told me to stop calling river bets when I'm only ahead of a bluff ), it encourages him to just check back bricks at least some of the time because of board strength.

But yeah it's a small pot, the board sucks, and getting bluffed sometimes on the turn isn't the end of the world so I don't really hate c/f.

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But 1a's post raises an interesting point; it may be worth considering treating the Ah as a good card for us. I'm not sure, because it completes the flush. I'm gonna think about this for a while, which really makes me wish I had the ambition to get good at combinatorics.
Yeah it's the scariest card in the deck for all of his Kx hands, and probably the only heart I'd bet at.

sry for strat chat on
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:12 PM   #3214
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Re: ***Official 2009 Micro Stakes FR Full Tilt Regulars Thread***

Damn I will leave FTP in 10 days since I have to play at another platform for an exclusive party.. funny thing is I probably will move to Party Poker or iPoker..

So then you can spam this thread all day long with Halle

I prefer:

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Old 07-22-2009, 02:13 PM   #3215
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Am I seeing stretch marks on those boobies????

Say it ain't so Halle.
those are mpethy's scratch marks.

Spoiler:
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:17 PM   #3216
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The more i think about it the more i actually like betting turn and turning our hand into a bluff here. I can see not betting hearts since he will probably call with almost his entire range that he called the flop with except weaker jacks which are only a small part of his range. But betting when an ace comes could fold some kings all jacks and after your cbet gets called theres a pretty big amount of dead money in the pot worth bluffing for. A villain with stats like this will also usually play his draws passively so i can see him calling 2 streets even with non ace high flushdraws. If you are called on the turn, you still have ~15-20% equity vs his one pair hands and villain is unlikely to fold anything he calls 2 streets to the third barrel except for busted draws.

I actually think that hand deserves its own thread since there are alot of people who dont read the ft regs thread that could give insight.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:30 PM   #3217
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Am I seeing stretch marks on those boobies????

Say it ain't so Halle.
Just proof that she is a mere mortal, and not (quite) a goddess.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:38 PM   #3218
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Thats what I'm talkin bout!
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The People's Taste: Emma Watson

Though I didn't saw much of her in the New Harry Potter movie
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:49 PM   #3220
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The People's Taste: Emma Watson

Though I didn't saw much of her in the New Harry Potter movie
too young for me, ldo. cute girl, but not interesting.
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Old 07-22-2009, 02:52 PM   #3221
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too young for me, ldo.

Sorry I didn't knew that and obviously Im one of the young guns around here
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:15 PM   #3222
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id poach it
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:35 PM   #3223
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I am doing the big clean trough my house at the moment

Do you guys also wonder why the hell you are saving some of the stuff you are throwing away during the big cleaning?
I really can't believe why I would keep an coin for a club 400 miles from here with the idea: "well..I might come there again some day and then I can use this 1 *freaking!!!* coin to buy 1 *freaking* drink.... lets save it!"

Oh,
and when it come to hollywood girls I got a very arrogant aproach: I don't adore women i could easily **** in real life

berate me ;-)
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Old 07-22-2009, 03:55 PM   #3224
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So then you can spam this thread all day long with Halle

I prefer:

While I agree she's very good looking I have a hard time reconciling the above picture with this one since I've been an adult the whole time she's been in movies while she has not.



Plus I'm old enough to be her fath.....erm significantly older brother.
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Old 07-22-2009, 04:21 PM   #3225
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and you wouldnt make a move on a VERY hot friend of your younger sister Capt?

I have a hard time believing that
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