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Lest it seem that way, I wasn't accusing him of doing anything underhanded. But if I were making coaching videos and giving away my hole cards, I wouldn't want my opponents to be able to see how I play.

One of the reasons I don't understand why lower tier video makers do what they do. I don't know how well he's compensated, but I don't know if I would consider it enough to give away how I play.

11-05-2009 , 11:31 AM

#7327

springsteen87

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Nino 1

Im about to head out on a roadtrip across the US with a friend from England on Saturday for about 15 days and it will be crazy not to have played poker for over two weeks. I took three days off last week for my brothers wedding and i thought that was strange. Cant wait to see what im like when i get back from this roadtrip

PM me if you end up somewhere around Minnesota

11-05-2009 , 11:40 AM

#7328

entertainme

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Quote:

Originally Posted by enty

that is starscream's tattoo. hes in the ps reg thread and the unl chatroom a lot.
there was a thread in bbv too, he generated some cash for charity iirc

u misunderstood why kurt posted that pic

I'm definitely out of the loop around here. Thanks for the explanation.

11-05-2009 , 11:52 AM

#7329

enty

say 'what' again

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induuuuuuuuuuuce

Hero (BB): $50.00
BTN/SB: $55.60

Pre Flop: ($0.95) Hero is BB with 3

BTN/SB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.20) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: ($2.20) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN/SB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3

River: ($9.20) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN/SB raises to $10.70, Hero calls $10.20

Final Pot: $30.60
Hero shows 3

(two pair, Fives and Threes)
BTN/SB shows 9

(two pair, Fives and Twos)
Hero wins $30.10

well i did my best
there are a bunch more tables now, g2g make dinner, hf guys

Last edited by enty; 11-05-2009 at 11:57 AM.

11-05-2009 , 11:54 AM

#7330

DDAWD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by enty

induuuuuuuuuuuce

Hero (BB): $50.00
BTN/SB: $55.60

Pre Flop: ($0.95) Hero is BB with 3

BTN/SB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.20) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: ($2.20) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN/SB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3

River: ($9.20) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN/SB raises to $10.70, Hero calls $10.20

Final Pot: $30.60
Hero shows 3

(two pair, Fives and Threes)
BTN/SB shows 9

(two pair, Fives and Twos)
Hero wins $30.10

How in the world do you make this call??

11-05-2009 , 12:00 PM

#7331

Equus asinus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by springsteen87

One of the reasons I don't understand why lower tier video makers do what they do. I don't know how well he's compensated, but I don't know if I would consider it enough to give away how I play.

Think it's prob mega advertising for coaching. So maybe slightly -ev in terms of playing, but +++ev in terms of coaching.

Also, the number of people who could/would try to exploit him is prob not as big as we'd think.

11-05-2009 , 12:04 PM

#7332

KurtSF

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Quote:

Originally Posted by springsteen87

One of the reasons I don't understand why lower tier video makers do what they do. I don't know how well he's compensated, but I don't know if I would consider it enough to give away how I play.

Because there's no way split has just one gear.

I used to be one of the "never show your cards! you give away informations!!!" people. But then I figured out (well, first of all most people aren't paying that much attention, but also) that if *I* don't know how I'm going to play that hand next time, what makes me think that they will?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDAWD

How in the world do you make this call??

Check back flop = overs
plus trusting your read

11-05-2009 , 12:05 PM

#7333

HappyPixel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DDAWD

How in the world do you make this call??

click buttons

11-05-2009 , 12:08 PM

#7334

KurtSF

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Quote:

Originally Posted by entertainme

Did you really? Or is this some "generate whatever tattoo you like on this photo"?

Haha, no. But someone did!

Quote:

Originally Posted by springsteen87

PM me if you end up somewhere around Minnesota

And El Nino, obviously hit me up if you're near SF.

11-05-2009 , 12:33 PM

#7335

EN09

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El Nino, likewise for Wyoming!!! LOL

EDIT: wife left for two days so it's a pokery marathon, er, after i get some much needed shelving up in the garage that is!

11-05-2009 , 12:42 PM

#7336

springsteen87

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Equus asinus

Yeah that's true, I'm sure he's gotten tons of students just because of the notoriety of being a stox video maker.

When I think of it he's also making videos for micro stakes, so being exploited at NL50 isn't very likely, and he plays a different game when on higher steaks

11-05-2009 , 12:45 PM

#7337

enty

say 'what' again

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DDAWD

How in the world do you make this call??

how can i minbet to induce and then not cawl ? :x
also, nobody ever has anything in HU, and especially the way he insta potted it he never has the boat there

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyPixel

click buttons

i have noticed you are really good at this

11-05-2009 , 01:38 PM

#7338

DDAWD

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Oh, I didn't notice it was HU.

11-05-2009 , 01:39 PM

#7339

DDAWD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by springsteen87

Have any of you looked at his PTR?

11-05-2009 , 01:40 PM

#7340

SammyG-SD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DDAWD

Have any of you looked at his PTR?

PTR is not accurate. especially 100NL and below.

11-05-2009 , 01:51 PM

#7341

KurtSF

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG-SD

PTR is not accurate. especially 100NL and below.

And from what I can tell its near useless more than ~6 months out.

11-05-2009 , 01:54 PM

#7342

ready 2 win

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Why do we exactly discuss Splits legitimacy again?

11-05-2009 , 01:55 PM

#7343

El Nino 1

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Just to let you guys know my route incase anyone wants to meet up for a beer. And thanks to everyone that said hit me up if im near them.

New Orleans
Memphis
Nashville
Washington DC
Cleveland
Chicago
New York
Chicago

11-05-2009 , 01:57 PM

#7344

El Nino 1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtSF

And from what I can tell its near useless more than ~6 months out.

PTR is certainly some ways off in regards to its accuracy. Not to mention that it only started tracking $50nl and below about 6 months ago which is why my PTR before ~April made me look like some kind of rakeback pro which was great for me and now is a reflection of how i actually play

11-05-2009 , 01:59 PM

#7345

Equus asinus

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Yeah, PTR is missing quite a few hands for me at 50, but has 90% so far at 100. Kind of crazy. 100 is very recent and small sample though. Could be PTR variance

11-05-2009 , 02:04 PM

#7346

KurtSF

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Equus asinus

Yeah, PTR is missing quite a few hands for me at 50, but has 90% so far at 100. Kind of crazy. 100 is very recent and small sample though. Could be PTR variance

For me PTR has about 95% from 25nl-100nl for the last 6 months, and probably 5% from 25nl-100nl before that. Seems that at some point they "fixed" their collection method.

11-05-2009 , 03:04 PM

#7347

DDAWD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Nino 1

Check out Harrahs in New Orleans if you want to get in some poker. Very loose preflop, very tight post. Pretty casual, especially on weekends. And its right downtown, so at the very least, you can get some free parking if you want to walk around Bourbon St.

11-05-2009 , 03:06 PM

#7348

DDAWD

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PTR is pretty good for my stats. They missed out on a bunch when full tilt was doing all its upgrades in the summer, but other than that, it's pretty spot on and I play 10NL and that's only recently.

11-05-2009 , 03:13 PM

#7349

enty

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtSF

For me PTR has about 95% from 25nl-100nl for the last 6 months, and probably 5% from 25nl-100nl before that. Seems that at some point they "fixed" their collection method.

they probably just added more datamining "servers" around the time they started selling HH ?