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NL50: Wierd spot with AK where I don't know what to do

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10-11-2008 , 02:12 PM

yemen

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,082

Both villains in this hand are around 50/17 fish.

Party Poker $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $50.40
UTG: $56.80
CO: $45.70
Hero (BTN): $125.65
SB: $49.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with A

UTG raises to $1.80, CO calls $1.80, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, UTG calls $6.20, CO calls $6.20

Flop: ($24.75) T

(3 players)
UTG bets $5.00, CO calls $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($39.75) 7

(3 players)
UTG bets $10.00, CO calls $10

Hero???

Tbh I'm not sure if my flop line was optimal either.

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10-11-2008 , 02:25 PM

jaysu

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I think flop is fine, you definately won't be able to bluff them off a jack and one of them could have a ten. Calling is ok I think, since a queen/king/ace might all be good for you and he bet so small.

On the turn I think one of them has a ten and I fold.

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10-11-2008 , 03:00 PM

orlov

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call turn hit river, shove, easy game

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10-11-2008 , 03:07 PM

Fiepoto

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Originally Posted by jaysu

I think flop is fine, you definitely won't be able to bluff them off a jack and one of them could have a ten. Calling is ok I think, since a queen/king/ace might all be good for you and he bet so small.

On the turn I think one of them has a ten and I fold.

I agree with jaysu, calling on the flop is fine, you're not going to push them off a J.

On the turn however, CALL ALL DAY LONG!! (and perhaps shove)

You have the expressed odds my friend. The pot is offering you 6 to 1 on your money, and you have the nut flush draw (4.1 to 1 odds of hitting your flush) and the A may be an out as well.

Even though each has already committed half their stacks, they seem to be fish and you might even have some fold equity if you shove and neither of them has the 10.

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10-11-2008 , 03:15 PM

jaysu

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Haha wow, didn't notice the flush draw, sorry. Yeah call call call.

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10-11-2008 , 03:15 PM

asmitty

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i really hate this spot, but i think this is a fold because of the texture of the board and serious reverse implied odds issues. QQ, QT, JT, JJ are all disastrous hands for one of them to have and unfortunately fit the profile of one or the other villains. if the board wasn't paired i go nuts, but you are going to have serious problems extracting value on the river without losing a bunch so i just cut my losses. if i do decide to call (which because i'm a spewmonkey i probably do) i get much more excited about the flush than the straight, and i don't really think the ace is an out.

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10-11-2008 , 03:19 PM

jaysu

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The only things that beat us if we make a draw are JT, TT, and JJ. Or 77. Not very likely hands. Easy call with the odds you are given to hit the flush or gutshot, and your overcards might be good too.

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10-11-2008 , 03:21 PM

Vanidor

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 193

Against one opponent, I am raising the flop and folding to a 3bet or trying to check it down if called.

Against two opponents, I think there is too big of a chance that we are beat and even drawing dead. The four calls by the CO are not a bluff. I expect him to have a strong hand nearly 100% of the time.

Fold the turn imo. It is really going to suck when our flush hits and we get stacked buy a FH.

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10-11-2008 , 03:35 PM

tcmNOWAY

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 957

No fold equity + lots of equity to make the best hand = call turn, shove good river

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