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NL5 TT 3bet Pot V LAG NL5 TT 3bet Pot V LAG

06-25-2022 , 04:23 AM
Villain is 34/23 50% fold to 3bet, 12% 3bet, 10% fold to cbet and cbets the flop 91%. His 3bet calling range that I know of so far is PP's.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 114.8 BB
Hero (SB): 103.4 BB
BB: 161.2 BB
UTG: 112.2 BB
MP: 149.8 BB
CO: 168 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T T

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.6 BB, BTN calls 2.6 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 8.4 BB

Flop: (25.6 BB, 2 players) 2 5 2
Hero bets 9 BB, BTN calls 9 BB

Turn: (43.6 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 25 BB, BTN calls 25 BB

River: (93.6 BB, 2 players) 3


Great flop for me against his likely range, turn really changes nothing, river on the face of it is an awful card but its going to be hard for him to have a flush given his 3bet stats so other than the obvious 22/55 the main worry would be 66.

Whats the best play on the river?
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06-25-2022 , 04:58 AM
Preflop a bigger squeeze size like 13.5 is better imo to charge people more for set mining.

Flop - you want to be very polar, BTN has few quads/full houses and a lot of overpair bluff catchers, while you have all the best overpairs and total air. So you want to bet at least geometric (1/2 pot)

Turn - size is ok but could go bigger too to put flush draws and AQ type hands with 2 high card+gutshot under more pressure. They still have strong-ish pocket pair bluff catchers and you're still polarised

River - could bet 10% or check, if they shove you have to fold because they don't get here with any bluffs on this river, unless they're aware of that and turn 77-99 into bluffs, which NL5 players won't
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06-25-2022 , 08:13 AM
If he calls 3bets mostly with PP, then I would go for check/fold.

The micros won't be bluffing here with 77-99 and we'll get check back often.

A small block bet would be ok too.
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06-25-2022 , 11:38 AM
14-15 pre, 2/3 flop, jam turn <pot
all you care about is squeezing max value out of his 66-99 and denying eq to AQ and suited broadways which are 2 over to your pair
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06-25-2022 , 11:54 AM
Definitely bigger pre. x/f river if you get there this way, but vs this player type i want to exploitatively x/r either flop or turn. not worried about trying to play GTO or even balanced vs the aggro-fish. if you think he might raise your flop bet then I like your size followed by x/r turn jam on undercards and x/c on overcards to catch his blufs. if he doesn't seem like the type of aggro guy likely to raise the c-bet then c-betting bigger is better, or you can just x/jam flop (assuming you'd gone bigger pre so its more reasonable)
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06-25-2022 , 12:50 PM
My thoughts behind the flop sizing were that I basically think he has 2 outs to improve as he likely is 3betting every over pair to mine and also a lot of broadways so I think his calling range is quite face up at this point. Not over keen on check/jam flop just because I think in that position myself if I held the hands I suspect he has then I could find a fold but I like the idea of doing it on that turn card or any other low card really.

As played if I am checking the river then it has to be to check/fold as has been mentioned its unlikely he bets any hand I beat but I just wonder the merits of betting to get called from 77-99 and if the average villain folds because of the board or simply because of the strength I have shown in the hand.
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06-25-2022 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by slyless
If he calls 3bets mostly with PP, then I would go for check/fold.

The micros won't be bluffing here with 77-99 and we'll get check back often.

A small block bet would be ok too.
I agree, if we check the river it has to be to fold. If you trust him not to raise a block bet as a bluff I like that a lot as you could get value from 77-99. I don’t see a ton of A in his range, could he have A5s?

His range is definitely capped as he called twice PF, the more I think about it I like a small river bet to dissuade bluffs and try to force him to play more straightforward.
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06-26-2022 , 04:08 AM
I did end up panicking a little bit on the river and I did shove and villain snapped it off with 88 but I think its a spot I deffo needed a line check.

My sizings certainly need work as I do tend to go too small I just always feel like I would be getting a ton more folds with the bigger sizings and I don't mind someone calling who may only have a couple of outs. I get a feeling my logic is flawed in that respect though.

I feel like I don't have a plan for the hand as bigger pre, and then bigger on this almost low flop would set up a shove on the turn that does not look like a massive overbet and the villain in this hand probably still calls at this point.

River I do really like the small bock bet, as villain is not going to turn hands I beat in to a bluff and he is not going to fold most of the hands I beat either to a small bet once he has got this far and will likely sigh call. I don't mind the check but I would probably end up convincing mjyself the villain is bluffing when the reality is that is hardly ever going to be the case.

Thanks everyone for your opinions its a help.
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06-27-2022 , 10:42 PM
I think bigger on the flop and jam turn as well.

Sorry i'm late!
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06-28-2022 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JAMORJELLY
I think bigger on the flop and jam turn as well.

Sorry i'm late!
Yeah my smaller sizings do not alolow for that and something to work on as just making it even slightly bigger makes bet flop and jam turn a good option. Thanks.
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