Villain 20/18 hands: 200, seems like a decent reg. Is this always QQ,KK,AA or how often these are draws like JTd, A5d, A3d

Should I call or is this -EV without further reads?

SB: $41.63 (166.5 bb)
BB: $45.81 (183.2 bb)
UTG: $22.77 (91.1 bb)
MP: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
CO: $25.67 (102.7 bb)
Hero: $25.35 (101.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with KQ

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.62, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.84, 2 folds, MP calls $1.22

Flop: ($4.03) 3 9 Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1.19, MP raises to $6, Hero calls $4.81

Turn: ($16.03) 9 (2 players)
MP bets $19.03 and is all-in, Hero?

I play nl10 and nl25. I'm no crusher. But.

If you put Ad3d* and JdTd in his range, he may as well have T9s, 98s and A9s too, playing it in a weird ass way.

And he may have AQ as well, due to the drawy board it's not that far fetched.

I'd fold here.

*he can't have Ad3d here based on your HH

Whoops

Folding seems reasonable yeah

He won't play full house like this, AA and KK 4bet pre, so for value hand like AQ makes most sense and he can have TJ KJ KT with FD as a bluff, also AJ AT with FD are possible.

Massive raise by villain OTF, I would go all-in or Fold. As played I would stack off on brick turn cards (9 being good one) as my decision was made OTF.
Imo most likely hand by villain is AQ

Its a call theres nothing much to think about imo. If he coolered you then bad luck

Flat pre imo. Also as played probably call but I’m not happy about it at all.

Thank you for feedback guys. It was a reversed hand and I was the guy who shoved turn with QdJd. I thought that I had some fold equity but apparently I had none.

Did I overplay my hand? I have trouble finding the right amount of aggression haha

Well I still had 36% vs 64%

QdJd is far too good to bluff with in my opinion, it is ahead of bluffs and can outdraw better hands. Just call flop.

Good idea. I wonder what solver would do

You don't have to shove turn. You have enough equity to call it off if he shoves and if you shove you will just get called by better anyway. C/r flop check turn is ok i think. Sometimes he will bet turn small and you can call and then river goes check check and you win a bit against a weirdly played jj or tt and you save money v kq or even aq

It raises flop sometimes / call sometimes.



And then on the turn we check, BTN bets 33% pot with a lot of their range and we check/shove. And BTN is never folding KQ (it folds KQ with Qd but here obviously that won't happen).

So according to the solver at least you were right to fastplay your hand and I was wrongly advocating a passive line, which is OK but far from mandatory.

This could work!

Thank you for checking the solver! I guess mixing fastplay and passive lines could be the best so villain can never know what hero does

good advice I saw is to think about what your hand wants to do vs the hands in your opponents range, and visualise their folding and continue range vs your betsize

I agree with Frogman that MP check raising flop with QdJd is fine, but go smaller like 2-2.5x, idea is to build bigger pot against TT, JJ, QTs, 9x and draws you dominate, and not raise too big or you make their continue range too strong. Check-call is also fine

Something else that's important for MP after check raise flop is that 9c turn is an equity shifting card, and they should probably be checking a lot, their draws have less equity and only one 99 combo available instead of 3

From BTN perspective I don't like 3bet jam flop in general, you throw away positional advantage. Plus at this SPR top pair can become 0ev bluffcatcher by river in theory, even on blank runouts. 20/18 reg or even standard 25nl guy probably missing a lot of the theory flop xr's with naked gutshots, oesds, Ax fd, so jamming isolates yourself to AQ sets and combodraws imo. Instead call flop checkraise and navigate turns, you realise your equity really well (easy fold on flush completes)

AP facing jam ott as BTN I personally don't expect much AQ but more nut fd/combodraws like hiazamberg said. Maybe 33 doing this stack you move. Not super happy but the 9c is really good card. Would call and take notes on MP hand, line and sizing choice

Given the massive flop xr, we're a bit weighted against something thin at this stake so I think yes most likely a draw.

slasher in general mate I think you should really tighten up a lot more to 3bets. QJs is a baaad hand to be playing OOP in a 3bet pot. Everything in a regular value 3bet range is dominating it. But in general really tighten up especially OOP. Calling 3bets OOP SUCKS HARD. Check your database for calling 3bets in general, then have a look IP and OOP. Remember that when someone 3bets you, unless it's from the BB they're taking a risk not just on you having a premium hand but the guys left to act too. Going to flop without the initiative is just not very profitable in general and more so when you're OOP. I think I said before but if you work out your ranges from each position, then workout roughly 33% that you need(don't even NEEED to but just so you feel like people are not exploiting you) to defend you'll see that you don't have to be in there with such crappy hands.

I'd call. otf MP is saying he has 33/99, which becomes less likely when the 9 pairs. You're afraid of AQ and there isn't a ton of that out there.

I dont generally call too much 3bets OOP but I think some regs start 3bet any2 if they sense weakness and I thought that QTs is too strong to overbet bluff but yeah maybe it would be easier to have 4bet or fold strategy instead of calling 3bets OOP

I think I would fold KQ in that spot because usually I am beat when I call. But usually I fold because I am weak tight lol