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01-15-2022 , 09:13 AM
I only have 10 hands on villain but he played 90% of them. Thoughts?


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NL Holdem 0.25(BB)

Dealt to Hero: J J

UTG Calls $0.25, HERO Raises To $1, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Calls $0.90, BB Folds, UTG Calls $0.75

Hero SPR on Flop: [7.51 effective]
Flop ($3.25): J K Q
SB Bets $3.19 (Rem. Stack: $44.16), UTG Folds, HERO Raises To $8 (Rem. Stack: $28.84), SB Calls $4.81 (Rem. Stack: $39.35)

Turn ($19.25): J K Q T
[color=red]SB Bets $39.35 (allin) HERO?
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01-15-2022 , 09:51 AM
I do not like raising flop.
I'm considering folding to the huge flop donk tbh, probably wouldn't.
But definitely folding to a large turn bet.
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01-15-2022 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeodan
I do not like raising flop.
I'm considering folding to the huge flop donk tbh, probably wouldn't.
But definitely folding to a large turn bet.
Yeah. Flop I was thinking I’m probably ahead and want to charge his draws while giving me a shot to get to the river with a cheap chance at boating up if behind. I felt like flatting would just put me in awkward spot on the turn. Based on my flop thought process (which is probably bad) I think I have to stick with my thought and just fold turn since this is the absolute worst card in the deck for me.

If he was betting with any two pair combos I was thinking he would probably have to check the turn to me and I can then v-bet a safe river. The whole thing felt awkward. Even worse spot if he jams the flop because I probably stack off since I don’t have JJ or QQ in his range. Flat flop is probably the better line.
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01-15-2022 , 10:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeodan
I do not like raising flop.
I'm considering folding to the huge flop donk tbh, probably wouldn't.
But definitely folding to a large turn bet.
Folding to the flop donk is very bad, even considering folding is bad, like I can’t overstate how big of a mistake that would be.
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01-15-2022 , 11:05 AM
Flop
The SB might have all Two Pairs in his range that he wants to play fast on this flop, just like we want to play our low set.
That's why I like raising more than calling.

Turn

Looks like the SB improved to the nuts on the turn.
Against a straight, we have 24% equity with 37.5% pot odds.

For a profitable call, we need to beat at least something in the opponent's value, but his line does not look attractive for bluff catching.

Therefore, I would fold against an unknown opponent.
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01-15-2022 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by slyless
Flop
The SB might have all Two Pairs in his range that he wants to play fast on this flop, just like we want to play our low set.
That's why I like raising more than calling.

Turn

Looks like the SB improved to the nuts on the turn.
Against a straight, we have 24% equity with 37.5% pot odds.

For a profitable call, we need to beat at least something in the opponent's value, but his line does not look attractive for bluff catching.

Therefore, I would fold against an unknown opponent.
Slyless,

If you are raising flop, how are you sizing the raise?
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01-15-2022 , 01:27 PM
I like the flop raise, you're only afraid of AT and lots of 2p or pair-plus-draw hands can donk here

Turn is an easy fold
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01-15-2022 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by antneye
If you are raising flop, how are you sizing the raise?
Raise x2.5 ($8) will be standard I think.
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01-15-2022 , 02:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yeodan
I do not like raising flop.
I'm considering folding to the huge flop donk tbh, probably wouldn't.
But definitely folding to a large turn bet.
Folding to the flop donk? Man you really think he has QQ or KK here? A straight I can see.

Folding flop here seems waay too nitty imo.

I agree with probably folding to turn though.
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01-15-2022 , 02:19 PM
Flop seems fine as this is probably a mistake by SB, and I doubt they have the nuts, so the raise is probably getting a bit of value. I'd personally probably just call, but both options seem fine to me. Turn is a clear fold in my view. The odd villain will turn up with absolute nonsense here, but I don't reckon it's worth finding out if this villain might, because they can have so much Ax.
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01-15-2022 , 05:58 PM
Well it’s nice to see that I basically played this correctly according to the consensus even though I felt confused. I even got my raise size correct. That in and of itself is a miracle.
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