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Originally Posted by Slasher-
Shouldnt we fold pf against 4bet if we are going to fold on most overcard flops? That would save money. And even if flop is like 842r villain still has overcards better than TT that beats us.
Im not trying to be cheeky. I wanna learn!
Well what is his value 4bet range? Lets say he 4bets JJ+ AK for value - on an AJx flop there is not one hand you beat. On an 842r your TT is ahead of the AK in his range. AK is 16 combos whilst JJ-AA is 24 combos in total. So on the 1st flop you are ahead of 0% his value range and on the 2nd you are ahead of 40%. It's a better flop for you with TT.
If he only 4bets QQ+ then it doesnt matter what the flop is - you need a ten lol
If you consider his 4bet bluffs they will often be hands like A5s AJo etc - again, more hands that beat you on an AJx flop
If it all sounds like a shitty spot well you have to consider that you call $3 to see a pot of $11.25 so you need to win <30% of the time . Of course there are further streets to play and this is why you don't want to keep putting money into a bad situation
To answer your question, this is a particularly bad flop for you. On a Qxx flop, for example, you will have a lot more equity against his range because all his Ax hands have missed.