GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 139.56 BB
Hero (SB): 172.2 BB
BB: 255.84 BB
UTG: 148.24 BB
MP: 102.68 BB
CO: 101.52 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 8.68 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, BB calls 15.32 BB

Flop: (48 BB, 2 players) 4 3 2
Hero bets 15.84 BB, BB calls 15.84 BB

Turn: (79.68 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 28.32 BB, fold

Hero wins 75.2 BB

I was going to jam on the river on any diamond

Very awkward stack sizes in this spot.

Villain could very well not have a 5bet range here, which means their calling range could be uncapped or at least very strong.
Running a huge bluff here into a possibly uncapped range seems like a bad idea.

I also really don't like the flop & turn sizing.
They don't really accomplish anything?

Shoving 100bb into a 75bb pot seems risky, we do have the nut blocker.
Not sure at all. Probably not terrible but I don't think this is a good play either.

what sizing would you use on the flop in a 4 bet pot? lol
I can't go large on the turn as well because we're deep stacked. If it was 100bb deep, I would be jamming the turn.

I think I would x flop.
I don't hate the flop sizing by itself, just don't like it in combination with the turn size. Like I said, it doesn't accomplish anything?

checking on the flop is terrible here in my opinion. We have overcards, we have BDNFD, BDSD. By betting, you fold out all the trash and you can put some more pressure on the turn, especially by betting small when we're deep.

Someone more experienced may say something about this but I think I'm right.

Bigger pre.
Flop and turn are fiine.

Can go smaller otf, no? In 4bet pots I cbet 1/4 pot then go 1/3 ott

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Is there any consideration for just calling the 3 bet being that we are in position and can keep ranges wider? I’m still trying to digest some of the concepts in Janda’s book and he seems to advocate for at least mixing in calls in these spots rather than making BB’s range stronger by 4-betting.

4bet sizing too small.

Jam flop

It's based on SPR and flop texture - there's no 1/4 in 4bet pot rule

Sure, I just try to simplify whenever possible.

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Well there is a huge difference between simplification and rote learning.

Understanding why we don't want to go 1/4 here is a very important concept.

With what other hands would you go 1/3 on this texture?

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This gets pretty weird to solve, since we have no idea what the ranges look like here realistically.

Here's GTO Wizard's BB vs SB 4bet calling range, no one is playing anything even close to this imo.



I ran some solves with different ranges and different allowed bet sizes, here's what I found out:

- My sims prefer to bet large on the flop, especially with the Ad we prefer betting 50-150% pot always.
- If I only allow a 33% pot bet my sim is range betting flop.

- Sim prefers barreling turn rather large, to set up stacks for river.
- We're checking sometimes on the turn: about 20-40% depending on ranges ; but not as often with AdKx
- Sim is never betting small on the turn with AdKx, it's actually almost never betting small

- River strategy changes drastically depending on ranges
- It seems the more likely villain is to have a high overpair the more often we're turning our AdKx into a bluff
- So the less AA-QQ villain has in their range, the more it is just checking AdKx

Hands that don't mind seeing a turn could go small OTF.

It will be hard to sim because it's unlikely you get accurate outputs due to preflop. BB should be 3betting 17% here but realistically it might not even be half that. AA probably 5bets way more than it should (never).

So there's going to be a higher concentration of hands like 88-QQ - i want to put those hands in 0 ev flop spots.

Jam is actually the simplification. But as played I don't think betting the turn accomplishes much since those concentration of hands will call OTT.

If a diamond falls OTR - it doesn't change equities much at all. You have almost no diamond hands in your 4bet range except specifically AdKd or maybe Ad5d (but you'd have a straight already). You probably aren't 4betting 7% of your range which is what GTO is doing at 200bb. It might be more like 3-4% with an emphasis on higher pocket pairs and AK and less suited connectors/Axs.

A better river to bluff would Qx because that makes top of his range less likely. I'm surprised he folded OTT.