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07-31-2010 , 05:56 AM
Opponent is fishy nit with 30 Vpip 0 PFR and 0 3bet and 4bet by that time...
On preflop i decided to call his light 4bet for set value...i decided to call his flop bet, then his small turn bet, and i had to call river as well...
Maybe i shuold`ve folded flop here, what do you think?



NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($29.01)
Hero ($18.21)
UTG ($29.97)
UTG+1 ($11.34)
CO ($15.78)
BTN ($40.31)

Dealt to Hero Q Q

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.20, fold, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero calls $0.65

FLOP ($3.05) 5 8 8

Hero checks, BTN bets $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

TURN ($6.65) 5 8 8 7

Hero checks, BTN bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60

RIVER ($11.85) 5 8 8 7 3

Hero checks, BTN bets $3.70, Hero calls $3.70
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07-31-2010 , 06:19 AM
So preflop u call for setvalue thinking u would need to spike the Q to beat his AA/KK.. But then u flop an overpair and suddenly u put him on JJ/1010/AK?
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07-31-2010 , 06:43 AM
Yeah, smth like that...he bets small, and makes me think so...
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07-31-2010 , 06:57 AM
If you're actually resolving to setmine queens here you should fold the flop. But I'd have a hard time doing that. The problem you have is even if he bets small you're still putting in almost 100bbs anyway.

How many hands on villain?
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07-31-2010 , 07:17 AM
20 hands...
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07-31-2010 , 07:22 AM
20 hands makes virtually every stat useless here. Either fold flop (lol) or call off. The problem is this gay minraising pre might be obviously AA/KK or he could just be a spaz.
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07-31-2010 , 07:25 AM
a 30/0 min raises then min 4bets? This is AA/KK like 99.99% of the time. Flop is ok, I cant fault anyone for calling there but after that when villain doesn't stop betting we have to be discipline and fold. Don't tell yourself "well he's betting so small so he can't have AA...I call"...all the small bets added up to almost 100bb's.
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07-31-2010 , 07:46 AM
I would play it as you did because the bets look like blockish bets. I would fold the river now.
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07-31-2010 , 09:02 AM
I am going to say this based on watching a lot of replayed hands in my HEM database so take it with a grain of salt.

Most every time a 30/0 player makes a min 4-bet he has AA/KK. but it is going to be real tough to find a fold here.
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07-31-2010 , 09:48 AM
If the call pre is for set value, the flop is a fold. I think it's right because it will be hard to play on later streets oop with this stack sizes and his cold 4b pre looks really strong.
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